Comments Thread For: Spin, Agendas Aside, Holyfield & Valdez Shouldn't Be Allowed To Fight This Weekend

[Coachcody]

I remember when Joe Frazier did an exhibition at the same age....it was sad to see the former aged champion in the ring......I hope it works out better for Holyfield

[M111]

The governing bodies are the ones who are killing the sport. From inventing multiple belts to making up crap reasons to get round failed drugs tests all so they don’t miss out on their sanctioning fees. Everyone knows that’s the only reason they do this. They don’t have the fighters or the sports best interests at heart just lining their own pockets. The sooner DAZN and Golden Boy and Arum sit down and form a new, impartial and most importantly non profit governing body, the better as that’s the only way anything will ever change. If they could all agree the WBA and WBC would pretty much be gone overnight. Yes they’ve got heritage, but that’s not worth sacrificing everything good in the sport for just to line a handful of corrupt executives pockets. Holyfield shouldn’t be fighting period unless it’s in his own back garden with a mate. Arum is right, governing bodies should exist to protect fighters from this. And Valdez should have been given at least a 12 month ban and stripped.

[ShaneMosleySr]

We get it. You excuse Mexican fighters for everything.

Great article by Idec. Finally some substance and comprehension regarding WADA’s code and the contradictions or inconsistencies with WBC-CBP.

However, Idec should’ve cited Conte’s quotes from his fiasco and the fiasco from the BJS vs Andrade situation. Then others could at least link conflicts of interest for who advises VADA. But then again, industry reporters are still naive about SNAC’s involvement with boxing. It’s a bit comical if you ask me.

then Idec states this: “Phentermine, primarily used to lose weight, isn’t comparable to an anabolic steroid, but Valdez essentially escaped this mess without suffering any real consequences.“

Countries throughout the world boost their livestock for the meat industry market. Different countries have different regulations and use different drugs, but make no mistake it is acknowledged. The amount used on livestock have regulations too. The problem is that there’s no consistency in the meat industry. “Organic” is a more modern culture to rival the use of drugs on bovine, but it isn’t illegal. Fans have no idea that Clenbuterol is one of many drugs to boost lean meat in bovine. Some countries ban it for political reasons and conflicts of interest to use different drugs that benefit the profiteers so that there are no monopolies. This then presents drugs having varying prices for the farmer.

VADA knew all that. Goodman said it directly to Al Bernstein on his podcast, and WADA scientists have stated that just one molecule causes a legal problem and that’s why WADA amended the threshold. When industry writers don’t detail this it just shows that they have bias to affiliation. GGG was just the protagonist before he fought Canelo. Many, like Manny fans, wanted these quiet “cute” non speaking guys to be the heroes vs the brash types.

WAR CANELO. kept it up Keith! We need more articles like this. Don’t be afraid.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Holyfield can’t walk around without help and slurs his words.

He definitely shouldn’t be allowed to fight.

I'd rather say Holyfield should be allowed, not Valdez. Evander is in great shape, and he's not fighting Joshua for the title at 58, he's fighting a former mma fighter.

[M111]

The brain shrinks as you get older. Sort of rattles around a bit. When it suffers trauma, blood vessels tear due to the movement and then you haemorrhage. Can’t train for that. Can’t do anything about that. Fight shouldn’t be happening unless Holyfield had an MRI scan. Not a hope in hell this fight would get sanctioned in the uk. Disgraceful.

[JD88]

Evander can or can’t fight? Age or not, is his decision, but commissions and promoters are the one who can put a stop to it. On Arum criticism vs Evander but not to oscar I instead to be the same way to both. Now arum is almost 90 he need to retire and let’s his son to run the show

[dan_cov]

Not sure Belfort should either he is 44 and you don't need VADA to tell you the guys juiced to the gills.

[Monty Fisto]

Keith where is the article of you saying the Mayweather vs pacquiao fight shouldn’t have happened because Mayweather tested positive for an Illegal IV the night before the fight?? Everyone in the medical field knows that an illegal Iv contains either Lactated Ringers or Normal Saline which in sports both are used to mask banned substances. If you wanna be gangster calling out and pinpointing certain fighters then be gangster all the way

What was the test that they conducted on Floyd that came back positive for an illegal I.V.?

The Mayweather I.V. was far from an ideal situation, but it is not the same as signing up to VADA and then failing a VADA test. You cannot definitively say Mayweather broke a rule or not. It was a mess of a thing involving differing authorising bodies. USADA gave him an exemption to have the I.V. then failed to tell NSAC or Arum. USADA claimed it broked no NSAC rules. NSAC claimed it did. Both sides were happy Mayweather was not using it for masking purposes. It's nowhere near as clearcut as Valdez. With Valdez, the WBC should be sticking to their word and saying, sorry you failed the VADA test; those are the rules and we won't sanction this fight. The Pascua Yaqui Tribal Gaming Commission can pull the WADA excuse and go ahead, but the WBC should not be doing this.

As for Holyfield, it is bit of a disgrace and potentially a disaster waiting to happen for the whole sport. An exhibition is one thing, but a sanctioned competitive fight? No way.

[M111]

[totally agree with that last sentiment - with each one of these bizarre exhibitions I wonder how long it’ll be until it comes crashing to an abrupt end when someone gets properly hurt. QUOTE=Monty Fisto;n31081516]

What was the test that they conducted on Floyd that came back positive for an illegal I.V.?

The Mayweather I.V. was far from an ideal situation, but it is not the same as signing up to VADA and then failing a VADA test. You cannot definitively say Mayweather broke a rule or not. It was a mess of a thing involving differing authorising bodies. USADA gave him an exemption to have the I.V. then failed to tell NSAC or Arum. USADA claimed it broked no NSAC rules. NSAC claimed it did. Both sides were happy Mayweather was not using it for masking purposes. It's nowhere near as clearcut as Valdez. With Valdez, the WBC should be sticking to their word and saying, sorry you failed the VADA test; those are the rules and we won't sanction this fight. The Pascua Yaqui Tribal Gaming Commission can pull the WADA excuse and go ahead, but the WBC should not be doing this.

As for Holyfield, it is bit of a disgrace and potentially a disaster waiting to happen for the whole sport. An exhibition is one thing, but a sanctioned competitive fight? No way.[/QUOTE]

[The Old LefHook]

Arum is awful angry he is getting no cut.