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    PS3 users beware!

    Sony asks gamers to sign new terms or face PSN ban

    Sony is preparing to ban gamers from the PlayStation Network (PSN) unless they waive the right to collectively sue it over future security breaches.

    The firm has amended PSN's terms and conditions and users have to agree to them next time they log in.

    The move comes months after a string of hacking attacks compromised over 100 million accounts of the PlayStation Network subscribers.

    It is, however, possible to opt out of the agreement within the next 30 days.

    Gamers will now have to try to resolve any legal issues with an arbitrator picked by Sony, before being able to file a lawsuit.

    The new clauses, dubbed "Binding Individual Arbitration," state that "any Dispute Resolution Proceedings, whether in arbitration or court, will be conducted only on an individual basis and not in a class or representative action or as a named or unnamed member in a class, consolidated, representative or private attorney general action".

    The re-written terms and conditions are being presented to gamers when they log in, but some have questioned who will notice the changes.

    Tech news site The Register wondered who would notice the small print outlining the opt-out terms, and not simply click the "agree" box having scrolled all the way down.

    Those that want to opt out will have to send a letter to Sony's Los Angeles headquarters in the US.

    Once they do, the subscribers will be able to keep their right to file a class action lawsuit without any need for arbitration.

    But before subscribers have a chance to opt out, they will still be required to agree to the new terms the next time they log into their accounts.

    Otherwise they will not be able to use the online services.

    Attacks and apology
    A class action lawsuit filed against Sony in April after the first attack, in which the details of 77 million users were stolen and PSN went offline for 40 days, could end up costing the Japanese electronics giant billions of dollars.

    Sony Online Entertainment, the company's computer games service, was also hit, as well as the Sony Pictures website, exposing personal information for 25 million more accounts.

    In addition, personal data of 2,000 consumers was stolen from a Sony Ericsson website in Canada and details of 8,500 users were leaked on a Sony Music Entertainment website in Greece.

    Some time later, a group called Lulz Security claimed to have broken into Sonypictures.com.

    Sony has since apologised over the security breaches and offered compensation packages.


    #2
    oh well, i don't that much. i'm not the suing type.

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      #3
      Wonder what the PS3 fanboys will make of this? They will still defend their console to the death.

      Sony don't seem too confident this won't happen again in the future do they?

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        #4
        Originally posted by OG Merchant View Post
        Wonder what the PS3 fanboys will make of this? They will still defend their console to the death.

        Sony don't seem too confident this won't happen again in the future do they?
        I honestly don't pick sides in the console wars. I have an Xbox because I want to play online with friends and they have Xbox. I just wanted to provide fair warning to those that do own the PS3.

        I just think it's a bit cheap. "Check 'I agree' to continue" means you waived your rights? Nah that sucks. And I would question the legality of the move.

        I reckon that "download this game as compensation and waive your rights" might be alright, but not this backdoor underhanded way of dealing with the situation.

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          #5
          Wow abit extreme, but thanks for the heads up. Last thing i want is to be banned lol

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            #6
            Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
            sony asks gamers to sign new terms or face psn ban

            sony is preparing to ban gamers from the playstation network (psn) unless they waive the right to collectively sue it over future security breaches.

            The firm has amended psn's terms and conditions and users have to agree to them next time they log in.

            The move comes months after a string of hacking attacks compromised over 100 million accounts of the playstation network subscribers.

            It is, however, possible to opt out of the agreement within the next 30 days.

            Gamers will now have to try to resolve any legal issues with an arbitrator picked by sony, before being able to file a lawsuit.

            The new clauses, dubbed "binding individual arbitration," state that "any dispute resolution proceedings, whether in arbitration or court, will be conducted only on an individual basis and not in a class or representative action or as a named or unnamed member in a class, consolidated, representative or private attorney general action".

            The re-written terms and conditions are being presented to gamers when they log in, but some have questioned who will notice the changes.

            Tech news site the register wondered who would notice the small print outlining the opt-out terms, and not simply click the "agree" box having scrolled all the way down.

            Those that want to opt out will have to send a letter to sony's los angeles headquarters in the us.

            Once they do, the subscribers will be able to keep their right to file a class action lawsuit without any need for arbitration.

            But before subscribers have a chance to opt out, they will still be required to agree to the new terms the next time they log into their accounts.

            Otherwise they will not be able to use the online services.

            Attacks and apology
            a class action lawsuit filed against sony in april after the first attack, in which the details of 77 million users were stolen and psn went offline for 40 days, could end up costing the japanese electronics giant billions of dollars.

            Sony online entertainment, the company's computer games service, was also hit, as well as the sony pictures website, exposing personal information for 25 million more accounts.

            In addition, personal data of 2,000 consumers was stolen from a sony ericsson website in canada and details of 8,500 users were leaked on a sony music entertainment website in greece.

            Some time later, a group called lulz security claimed to have broken into sonypictures.com.

            Sony has since apologised over the security breaches and offered compensation packages.

            its free. Its non negotiable. If you pay you get to have an opinion. Im better at mass effect than you.

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              #7
              i am aware

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                #8
                Originally posted by Mannie Phresh View Post
                its free. Its non negotiable. If you pay you get to have an opinion. Im better at mass effect than you.
                It isn't free though, not really. If you just dropped $60-70 to play the new call of duty or FIFA or Left 4 Dead online and suddenly, despite the promises of the company you chose to carry that game, you don't have any online service at all, then the service has ended up costing you.

                Sony promised free online gaming with no user fees. They didn't add the caveat "oh but if it isn't working you're SOL, because you get what you pay for, suckers".

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                  #9
                  You guys DO know its exactly the same for the Xbox but that just gets easier hidden right?
                  When you buy a game from XBOX arcade for example, they can remove that game whenever they want however they want and so on.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Smokin'J View Post
                    You guys DO know its exactly the same for the Xbox but that just gets easier hidden right?
                    When you buy a game from XBOX arcade for example, they can remove that game whenever they want however they want and so on.
                    I think we're talking about different things here.

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