What in the hell is going on in NYC?

[War Room]

Children under the age of 12 will no longer face arrest and prosecution for virtually all crimes in New York under a bill signed into law late this week by Gov. Kathy Hochul.

raises the lower age of the state’s jurisdiction for juvenile delinquency, a move that will prevent those under the age of 12 from arrest except in the case of a homicide.

[Left Hook Tua]

******ity

The way to stop juvenile crimes to arrest them and punish them young

1. Some get scared and learn their lessons

2. The hardcore ones are taken off the streets

3. You break up groups of youths engaged in crime

4. The parents send bad kids off to another city/state/country

1 - Juvie and youth camps are not fun. A lot of kids wouldnt like it in there and would prevent some from committing crimes to go back

2 - bad kids will be bad kids and they progressively get worst and their crimes get worst. Lock some kid up when he does burglary and prevents him from advancing to robbery, lock some kid up for assault and prevents him from committing murder

3 - crime is a group/participation activity, you break up groups by sending some away, you lower the crimes. Especially if the ones you lock up are the actual leaders/trouble makers.

4 - parents sending their kids away is quite effective, if they were just committing crimes because of peer pressure or influence, you take that away. Also even if the kid does find trouble when he gets sent away, he's committing it in another jurisdiction and not yours.

Not punishing criminals especially juveniles just encourages more crime. I dont understand why ppl don't understand this.

[B.UTLER]

Dont you live in LA where you voted for DA Gascon doing the same thing..

I hate this soft on crime stance.. both white collar and blue collar crimes should be punished severely..
Im glad i live in texas..

[Left Hook Tua]

Dont you live in LA where you voted for DA Gascon doing the same thing..

I hate this soft on crime stance.. both white collar and blue collar crimes should be punished severely..
Im glad i live in texas..

Me?

I dont vote.

[4truth]

Sounds like a business opportunity. Any Oliver Twist fans here?

[travestyny]

Two of your video titles say 12 and up......so why the hell would you include that when this concerns children under 12?



Anyway, my opinion is that this is great. For one, I'm not very worried about crime from 7-11 year olds less than murder. Eh. But more importantly, it's not like children will just be able to run amok. The idea is to provide social services to help them.

You left out probably the most important part to all of this.

Under the new law, local social services departments will be required to set up what’s known as a differential response program for those under the age of 12 who may have otherwise been charged as a juvenile delinquent.

Those programs, which are subject to state review, are meant to connect children with proper mental-health care and other services rather than enter them into the juvenile justice system.

Why would anyone have a problem with trying to help these very young children as opposed to putting them in the juvenile justice system?

[travestyny]

******ity

The way to stop juvenile crimes to arrest them and punish them young

1. Some get scared and learn their lessons

2. The hardcore ones are taken off the streets

3. You break up groups of youths engaged in crime

4. The parents send bad kids off to another city/state/country

1 - Juvie and youth camps are not fun. A lot of kids wouldnt like it in there and would prevent some from committing crimes to go back

2 - bad kids will be bad kids and they progressively get worst and their crimes get worst. Lock some kid up when he does burglary and prevents him from advancing to robbery, lock some kid up for assault and prevents him from committing murder

3 - crime is a group/participation activity, you break up groups by sending some away, you lower the crimes. Especially if the ones you lock up are the actual leaders/trouble makers.

4 - parents sending their kids away is quite effective, if they were just committing crimes because of peer pressure or influence, you take that away. Also even if the kid does find trouble when he gets sent away, he's committing it in another jurisdiction and not yours.

Not punishing criminals especially juveniles just encourages more crime. I dont understand why ppl don't understand this.

I gotta disagree with this.

Have you seen those juvie detention centers? They look more like they are prepping kids for prison life rather than prepping them to live as law abiding citizens.

I just saw a documentary on one in ******ia. At the end it said 70% of the kids are rearrested within 3 years. That doesn't sound promising to me.

Also, there are mostly poor kids caught up in this system. I don't think their parents can just afford to "send them away."


This new approach in New York seems like a step in the right direction to me depending on how good the social services provided are.

[Left Hook Tua]

I gotta disagree with this.

Have you seen those juvie detention centers? They look more like they are prepping kids for prison life rather than prepping them to live as law abiding citizens.

I just saw a documentary on one in ******ia. At the end it said 70% of the kids are rearrested within 3 years. That doesn't sound promising to me.

Also, there are mostly poor kids caught up in this system. I don't think their parents can just afford to "send them away."


This new approach in New York seems like a step in the right direction to me depending on how good the social services provided are.

I've been to Juvie

Sylmar juvenile hall

Camp as well

Camp challenger

The reason kids from juvie are rearrested is because they're screw ups

Same with adult prisoners

It doesn't mean dont send them to juvie

BTW you don't really get sent to juvenile hall straight away

before i went to juvie, I was arrested several times

I was always released to the custody of my parents when they go to the police station

My lil brother beat up some guy, released

He then stabbed a couple guys at burbank amc, released

He then shot a couple guys, released

Then when they filed attempted murder charges for the shooting, then they rearrested him and sent him to juvie to await trial

[Left Hook Tua]

Two of your video titles say 12 and up......so why the hell would you include that when this concerns children under 12?



Anyway, my opinion is that this is great. For one, I'm not very worried about crime from 7-11 year olds less than murder. Eh. But more importantly, it's not like children will just be able to run amok. The idea is to provide social services to help them.

You left out probably the most important part to all of this.




Why would anyone have a problem with trying to help these very young children as opposed to putting them in the juvenile justice system?

The point of juvenile hall, jail, prison, camp is NOT to help ppl

It's punishment

Tired of ppl acting like the point of incarceration is to help or to rehabilitate

It's not

It's to lock guys up as punishment and so they dont commit more crimes

[kara]

Two of your video titles say 12 and up......so why the hell would you include that when this concerns children under 12?



Anyway, my opinion is that this is great. For one, I'm not very worried about crime from 7-11 year olds less than murder. Eh. But more importantly, it's not like children will just be able to run amok. The idea is to provide social services to help them.

You left out probably the most important part to all of this.




Why would anyone have a problem with trying to help these very young children as opposed to putting them in the juvenile justice system?

If there is no arrest, how would they be charged as a delinquent? Maybe some letter comes in the mail.