intensity vs. technique

[Kinetic Linking]

obviously you need both, but which is more important?

I'm such a fan of both I'm actually not sure which I'd pick. I feel like a trainer would be more excited to see a new fighter with intensity because he'd figure he could teach the technique, but fighters passionate about technique have gone far in the sport.

I'm going to go with intensity because I find it more innately appealing and because it's my understanding that much popular technical knowledge was originally derived from observing naturally ferocious fighters.

[Pork Chop]

In muay thai they actually have a term for it
a "beautiful boxer" or a trainer who focuses on "beautiful boxing" is one that focuses purely on perfect technique.
one of my trainers is like this
he'll have you throw hundreds of rear round kicks until you do it perfectly
it's exhausting in it's own right, but isn't the most intense workout

we've also got other guys (like myself), who are better at keeping a fighter busy during pad rounds.
I'm constantly calling out combos to keep the work rate high.
it's funny when I get someone who's been focusing on "beautiful boxing" too long because they always want to break to ask questions about proper form.
you end up having to smack them around to get them to put in decent work for the whole round.

ultimately i think you need both.
it's better to mix it up - either one day for each, or mixing up rounds of each.
otherwise, you either become someone with beautiful technique but no stamina, or a guy who can go but just throws slop for the whole round.

[g0tcha]

intensity is gained with technique. you think tyson could throw like this when he first started out?


by doing it over and over it becomes second nature to where no matter how fast you go your doing it perfectly. like the guy above with rear round house kicks. if you try to throw them as hard and as fast as you can even though you arent that good at them yet you will only accomplish being tired and having a ****ty round house kick. Back when i first started doing my complex routine i wasnt doing my full range of motion because i was trying to go for intensity and speed but one time i decided to slow down enough to do each movement as fast as i could with perfect technique i was 10x more tired from it. technique leads to speed and intensity.

[Spartacus Sully]

I do not fear the man that knows 1000 techniques that hes done 10 times but the man who has done 10 techniques 10000 times

[Dynamite Glove]

Good forum, been lurking for a long time, but here's my first post.

Power, speed, and lots of stamina will always overcome a technical boxer, it's just that most fast punchers lack the stamina to keep up a kosher workrate, while technical fighters can ration their stamina with their matador-esque skills.

a good hard punching boxer who's fast with lots of stamina and at least a decent chin, is something to fear.

[Kinetic Linking]

yeah ylem and dynamite I think you're both right.

[Talon]

it depends to me, if the difference has to be huge betwen the fighters id pick technique, but if its almost even amounts of intensity and technique id go for a little more intensity

but maybe im wrong maybe skill is always better, maybe intensity is always better. depends on who sticks to the gameplan better ?

[RightCross94]

technique is more important

[Spartacus Sully]

I know how to jab, you probably do to? Its not going to get me any where unless i practice doing it with the quality of being intense.

[Cotto Rules]

You need both. Technique creates intensity like someone said before.
But if you're a better athlete than your opponent that can help. Roy Jones vs B-Hop is a good example, Hopkins was 10x the technical fighter Roy was but was too slow to get a hold of him.

1) Work on the basics(shadow boxing, sparrings, Pads, Bag)
2) Work on calisthenics.(jump rope, running, pushups, situps, weights)