Who had better handspeed: Mike Tyson or Joe Louis?

[metalinmybrain]

Iron Mike Tyson all the way!

I don't care how you put it, a jab isn't worth **** if you don't have the means to back it with something else. Tyson laid down the fastest combinations I have ever witnessed with my own two eyes. The Berbick fight was incredible, he was relentless and accurate with his blazing combinations. Berbick was completely he had no answer for what just happened to him and was in dis belief after the fight, he didn't think Tyson hit that hard and never realized how fast he was, that was until he got hit! Tyson was mentally charged then and nothing was going to stand in his way, he didn't get all those early knockouts for being slow. His hands were as fast as a welterweights and his power was that of an atomic bomb. Anyone who can lay down combinations as fast as Tyson did in the heavyweight division has to be the top dog in who had the fastest hands!


Unbelievable to how many people can't see the obvious. How fast does it really take Joe Louis to hit the body then come up to the head? In all reality Tyson has the fastest hands in the history of boxing in terms of fastest with affect!

[Hawkins]

Unbelievable to how many people can't see the obvious. How fast does it really take Joe Louis to hit the body then come up to the head? In all reality Tyson has the fastest hands in the history of boxing in terms of fastest with affect!

I beg to differ. Ever hear of a cat named Sugar Ray Robinson? Hand speed to spare and dynamite in either fist.

[hemichromis]

afar as the speed of single punches go both were very fast and very close joe lous was a far more economical fighter. he would pick his punches more carefully and always knew where the openings were.

tyson IMHO has some of the fastest combos of any heavies ever. ali and patterson were faster but neither had the power he had. tyson was not an intelligent fighter but in his prime his speed technical skills and accuracy made him incredibly dangerous.

[metalinmybrain]

Rooney had an interesting analysis of Tyson's handspeed. He said that he had never seen a fighter who could punch as fast as Mike could in terms of thought process/brain signals to muscle action. Rooney would shout a series of punches and Tyson would throw them. Not only were they correct, but lightning fast. Cus once said of Mike that he felt Tyson's hands moved quicker than Patterson's, which was surprising given Mike's heavier build. Tyson also moved around the ring quicker than Louis, making his punches more explosive and difficult to predict.

Louis was definitely more accurate, however.

I agree with everything you said except for Louis being a more accurate puncher? How could you figure that if Louis wasn't throwing combinations like Tyson? His punch to the body followed by one to the head was nothing spectacular next to a combination of Tyson. Against Schmeling in their second fight Louis hit him with a body shot than expired about a second and a half before releasing onto his head, he did this over and over and it was barely the beginning of the fight? Tyson always exploded in his youth never gave it a second though, had all his combination locked down to perfection and knew when to release them because of his split second timing for countering. I don't even think Louis would have been able to pull of a right hand body shot followed by a right hand uppercut to a left hook within a second! The reason you didn't see Louis performing a combination like that is because he wasn't built for that type of movement and speed to pull it off with success. You need speed power and great timing to pull that combination of and til this day and any day before in time no one did it better than Mike Tyson. Unbelievable how fast he was, against Berbick he flushed him away with punches coming from every where with accuracy. He didn't knock his opponents down or out because of his power alone, it was his speed and accuracy that finished them off. That combination against Pinklon Thomas.........just brilliant, watch it again and tell me how fast that was, his uppercuts to hooks one after another in blazing speeds.

Tyson is faster than Louis and that is a fact!

[metalinmybrain]

afar as the speed of single punches go both were very fast and very close joe lous was a far more economical fighter. he would pick his punches more carefully and always knew where the openings were.

tyson IMHO has some of the fastest combos of any heavies ever. ali and patterson were faster but neither had the power he had. tyson was not an intelligent fighter but in his prime his speed technical skills and accuracy made him incredibly dangerous.

How can Patterson be faster than Tyson if their own trainer said otherwise? That alone makes your opinion go down the ****ter!

[metalinmybrain]

I beg to differ. Ever hear of a cat named Sugar Ray Robinson? Hand speed to spare and dynamite in either fist.

What? Are you serious pal, Robinson is a fast boxer there is no doubting that but if you would have read correctly I said with affect!!!! READ PAL READ!!!

Tyson had perfect speed because he got the job done. He was getting it done fast and early, if it wasn't for his blazing hand speed in both hands plus raw power he wouldn't have gotten all those first round knockouts and one punch your done knockouts. His left hook alone will hook you faster than you can blink your eyes. Robinson isn't even a heavyweight pal, he may be fast but his speed wasn't blinding enough to knock most of his opponents bloodless!

[Hawkins]

What? Are you serious pal, Robinson is a fast boxer there is no doubting that but if you would have read correctly I said with affect!!!! READ PAL READ!!!

Tyson had perfect speed because he got the job done. He was getting it done fast and early, if it wasn't for his blazing hand speed in both hands plus raw power he wouldn't have gotten all those first round knockouts and one punch your done knockouts. His left hook alone will hook you faster than you can blink your eyes. Robinson isn't even a heavyweight pal, he may be fast but his speed wasn't blinding enough to knock most of his opponents bloodless!

Well pal, I did read and I stand by my statement. So what Ray wasn't a heavyweight - you said the 'fastest hands in the history of boxing in terms of fastest with affect'.

Sugar Ray not only had lightning fast hands, but he had heavy hands as well. Knock a cat out with both fists, and could do it quickly.

[metalinmybrain]

Well pal, I did read and I stand by my statement. So what Ray wasn't a heavyweight - you said the 'fastest hands in the history of boxing in terms of fastest with affect'.

Sugar Ray not only had lightning fast hands, but he had heavy hands as well. Knock a cat out with both fists, and could do it quickly.

"knock a cat out with both fists", I seriously don't understand how your brain works pal! Tyson would knock a cat out with one punch, and the cat wouldn't see it coming from right in front of it's face!

That is why I am specific to what I say, I put it in detail for you and you still obtain your arrogance over defeat!

[metalinmybrain]

Well pal, I did read and I stand by my statement. So what Ray wasn't a heavyweight - you said the 'fastest hands in the history of boxing in terms of fastest with affect'.

Sugar Ray not only had lightning fast hands, but he had heavy hands as well. Knock a cat out with both fists, and could do it quickly.

You sure are a Floyd Patterson fan, why isn't he on your all time light heavyweight list?

[Hawkins]

You sure are a Floyd Patterson fan, why isn't he on your all time light heavyweight list?

Why would i put Floyd Patterson in a light heavyweight list?