Hagler Vs. Hopkins: who wins? explain.

[StarshipTrooper]

For some reason Hagler seems underappreciated in these parts. Few people point out the man had good boxing skills himself and wasn't just a brawler. Marvin went to war when he needed to but that was only one of several tools in his arsenal.

Poet

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His style was dull as dishwater, his level of competition was mainly average, he has a good chin and fine boxing skills, wouldn't say superior, and yeah he probably is the best middle of the last 20 or so years. I'm not saying he's a bad fighter, just not among the elite middles for me.

KO Calzaghe? I doubt it. Hopkins' performance against Calzaghe put me off him a lot. The old-timers he gets compared to like Moore and Walcott would have been ashamed at such antics.

You don't know what you are talking about mate.

The bout against Joe was at LH. He was at the age of 43, yet all Joe could do was eek out a dodgy SD.

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Hopkins run and duck style would win him the UD over Hagler. I see him leaning on Hagler in the clinches, hitting and holding, then running and potshotting. Hard to bet against Hopkins unless his opponent has a large speed advantage and is able to disrupt his timing.

On the other hand Haglers incredible strength could pose a threat, but Hopkins on a good day takes the UD. Either one winning isn't out of the question, a KO is though.

I've gone back and forth on this fight/matchup.

Agree.

Hagler does not have the speed to cause Hopkins problems. Which is why i said Hearns would ironically be more of a problem for Hopkins than Hagler.

I doubt either would be even close to being KO'd, with their chins. But i just don't feel Hopkins would allow Hagler to overwhelm him, hence an easy UD win for Hopkins imo

[TommyBraid]

Hagler for me.

[nachorjj]

In a 15 round fight with the oldschool gloves, I think Hagler wins by late stoppage....I can see Hopkins getting a good points lead but Hagler will slowly but surely pressure Hopkins and break him down. Hagler wins TKO 12-15 imo. If we're talking the new rules 12 rounds with the big gloves I think Hopkins would sc**** a UD 116-112 with some close last rounds as Hagler realises he has to knock Hopkins out.

I agee. good point

[Kid McCoy]

You don't know what you are talking about mate.

The bout against Joe was at LH. He was at the age of 43, yet all Joe could do was eek out a dodgy SD.

Hopkins was 43 and one fight later put in what was probably his best ever performance. Calzaghe was 36, hardly a spring chicken himself. I didn't think it was that close either. Hopkins won the first 3 rounds and I gave Calzaghe all the rest. The old-timers Hopkins gets compared to would be embarrassed by his whining, spoiling tactics that night.

[portuge puncher]

Hopkins was 43 and one fight later put in what was probably his best ever performance. Calzaghe was 36, hardly a spring chicken himself. I didn't think it was that close either. Hopkins won the first 3 rounds and I gave Calzaghe all the rest. The old-timers Hopkins gets compared to would be embarrassed by his whining, spoiling tactics that night.

he knocked joe down in the FIRST round!!!

if it was a prime hopkins, joe wouldent make it past the fifth

[vandiar]

The Calzaghe fight didn't throw me off, it put me off. Old age is no excuse for Hopkins' antics in that night, crawling around on the canvas like a club fighter after imaginary low blows. Moore, Foreman, Holmes etc never did likewise when they were in their 40s.

Hopkins didn't suddenly start being boring in his 40s. He's been that way throughout his career. You fight whichever way suits you best, and that's the way which suits Hopkins.

Btw, he did not win the light-heavyweight title. He won a version of it and subsequently lost it to Calzaghe. **** Tiger is still the only fighter to have accomplished that feat with undisputed titles.

what the hell are you talking about? that was THE LINEAL LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE! That IS the Title.

[D-MiZe]

For some reason Hagler seems underappreciated in these parts. Few people point out the man had good boxing skills himself and wasn't just a brawler. Marvin went to war when he needed to but that was only one of several tools in his arsenal.

Poet

Yep.

I've always said that Hagler is so underrated.

[them_apples]

Hopkins was 43 and one fight later put in what was probably his best ever performance. Calzaghe was 36, hardly a spring chicken himself. I didn't think it was that close either. Hopkins won the first 3 rounds and I gave Calzaghe all the rest. The old-timers Hopkins gets compared to would be embarrassed by his whining, spoiling tactics that night.

Calzaghe was in the prime of his career at 36, Hopkins wasn't. No way in hell has Calzaghe ever looked better. Just like JMM Calzaghe was a fresh mid 30's fighter. Hopkins prime lasted till he was probably 39 years of age, then he started trying to conserve his energy and his amazing workrate dropped to all time lows.

Pretty easy to see Hopkins came out on top of nearly every exchange and delt more damage than Calzaghe, only he hardly thew anything.