Where did the first ever boxing match take place?

[Anthony342]

I agree! Corbet never fought a bare knuckle match...yet all his techniques, and the sport that he was introduced to was bare knuckle, there is no question about that. The Marquee was perhaps an inovator, but I think his ideas were strictly in the same paradigm. Your examples of chamos like Mace and Sullivan are icing on the cake.

Karate is still karate when it came out of the Ryuki Islands and became Japanized with concepts of order and aesthetics added to it... It was just a development. I tend to view the Marquee in this matter. In both instances there is a direct line of transmission that is documented. Gloves were used as "mufflers" the difference being that in the bare knuckle fighting big emphasis was placed on how to punch without breaking the hands. Most people are clueless that if a modern boxer punched the way it is done with gloves, they would probably break a hand.

Its even in the targets. Dempsey's hook was brilliant because it was done in such a way that the hand hitting was at a 90 degree angle...

I asked you this question because when I look at the contribution of the Marque of Queensbury, I definitely see it in the same paradigm of what we call boxing, and what was separated from military endevours and developed (for personal glory) by the Greeks... I thought that it was a way to make boxing appeal to all classes, not just the working man. I also thought it was clever and humanitarian but did not know the Marquis' motive.

I don't know if you or your kids watch any of the Adult Swim cartoons on Cartoon Network, but I got a chance to check out Season 1 of Mike Tyson Mysteries. Still gotta get the other 3 on DVD. Anyway, one of his sidekicks is the ghost of the Marquess of Queensberry that Mike calls Marcus . Norm McDonald's character is also a talking pigeon because why not? You guys just reminded me of this show. Did you know Muhammad Ali had a similar show in 1977 called The Greatest? I just found this out.

[Marchegiano]

Define your terms

Around these parts we argue over the origins of boxing because many assert that all forms of fight fighting is boxing. Do they consider BYB or Streetbeefs, etc, boxing? No. Do they see Conor McGregor as a boxing champion? No. But, they will tell you Mesopotamia started boxing because mesopotamia does depict the first fist fights in image form. Doesn't matter that when you read the text from Meso it will very clearly explain these are not even fights let alone limited to just fist.

Jango

It's a shame people want to attribute an ancient sport to any ******* with a glove on. It reminds me of people who point out half ass prototypes that didn't work to take credit from a real inventor.

The half assed bull**** in Egypt never made a sport for a reason. It wasn't boxing, it wasn't even a sport, it was a show. Like WWE. Just like WWE.

[The Old LefHook]

I've heard tell the first punch was a hammer fist.

[The Old LefHook]

It preceded even the hammer itself, so was called the cave-hit back then, according to some experts.

[JAB5239]

Ice World, Totowa, New Jersey ?

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[Willow The Wisp]

Cain KO 1 Abel at the old, old Garden