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Originally posted by Atypicalbrit View Post
Depends if Fury is shot or not.
If he's shot with no legs and his reflexes are gone then Usyk wins.
If Fury has his legs under him then Usyk wond do nothing.
Chisora already showed that if you charge this guy down and force him into a close range war he's got nothing for you except to cover up and cry to the ref.
We will see on fight night, I think Fury is done and I've got money on Usyk, but if Fury gets up in Usyk's face in round 1 and Usyk starts complaining to the ref and asking for his head guard and vest then fury will stop him.
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Originally posted by Thatmanox View Post
How is he a dawg when he should’ve been ko’d from a clean belt line shot but he cryed to the ref so it was called a low blow? For how skilled you think Usyk is, he struggled against chisora and chazz Witherspoon lmao.
of three things. Either (1)you're trolling me
(2) you didn't actually watch the fight, or (3) ydksab.
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Originally posted by AmpMcv View Post
Usyk beat Chisora, tho.
Usyk vs Chisora is only a relevant fight for the first 3 or 4 rounds, after that Chisora is a gassed out old man so it has no relevance what Usyk did at that stage when forecasting future fights.
In the first 3 or 4 rounds when Chisora had energy was the relevant part and you have to look at those rounds when forecasting fights involving Usyk, what did we see.
1. Usyk's footspeed is good, but it was not fast enough to stay away from a Chisora who was charging him down
2. Usyk didn't have the firepower to keep off a big man who was willing to take a jab or two to close the distance
3. Up close on the inside Usyk didn't have any offence and was reduced to shelling up and looking over to the referee to try and get it broken up
4. Against a big man using his size up close Usyk didn't look physically strong and was bullied and mauled in the clinch
Yes, Usyk survived those 3 or 4 rounds and got to the stage Chisora always gets to now where he slows down and gets tired and then Usyk was able to outbox and take the rest of the rounds on points, we all knew that would happen. I KNOW after watching that fight that Usyk would never be able to beat Evander Holyfield, Joe Frazier, Lennox Lewis or Mike Tyson, it showed that as skilled and talented as Usyk is he lacks physical robustness, strength and inside fighting ability. People ignore all of that with usyk because they think that Skill is the only thing that wins fights. It isn't, especially at heavyweight.
When I try and predict Usyk vs Fury I have to take the above points in consideration, because the Fury of a few years ago could do everything Chisora did in those first 3 or 4 rounds, could do them BETTER than Chisora and had WAY better stamina than Chisora to be able to sustain those tactics throughout the whole 12 rounds. If Chisora had 12 rounds stamina he would have beaten Usyk.
The question for me is how much has Fury Got left because if he can sustain pressure effectively for more than 6.5 rounds then he's the favourite, but due to inactivity, age and his history of abusing his own body I don't think he will be able to, so I lean toward Usyk being able to outbox a pretty stationary fury.
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Originally posted by AmpMcv View Post
Witherspoon quit on his stool. He didn't struggle with either/or. The fact that you're saying it was a "clean beltline hit" tells me one
of three things. Either (1)you're trolling me
(2) you didn't actually watch the fight, or (3) ydksab.
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Originally posted by AmpMcv View Post
Before Oleksandr Usyk beats the brakes off of Tyson Fury?
Idgaff where these dudes are from and what Fury does or doesn't do. He's got a puncher's chance against Usyk.
Dude is a straight up DAWG. The low blow in the Dubois fight was a low blow and he recovered in less than 2 mins. The judge MADE him take 5.
Usyk is a beast. He'll beat Fury pillar to post as long as Tyson has no drugs in him.
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Originally posted by Thatmanox View Post
You d riding casual stans are comical. Just because Witherspoon quit on his stool didnt mean he gave Usyk a lot of trouble lmao. And you saying he didn’t struggle against chisora and barely squeak out a win tells me you didn’t even watch it. At least you admit you don’t know **** about boxing. You sound like you were one of the mental mongs who thought huggy was a pfp fighter as well. Hilarious enough, once Usyk loses I guarantee you’ll be one of the first ones crying. In fact I can guarantee it, you’ll be crying just like Usyk from the clean belt line blow. Stan’s these days, I swear.
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Originally posted by AmpMcv View Post
So it's all of the above. You didn't watch the fight. You're trolling and ydksab. Got it. Enjoy your day, Hoggle.
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