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    #41
    Originally posted by Biolink View Post
    Saul Alvarez is on the undercard
    this fight does 2.5 mill easily with the promotions, a commercial, & a 24/7.... no way this does under 2 million...

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      #42
      1 million max

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        #43
        Originally posted by Siggy View Post
        and? i dont know too many people who buy events becuz of 1 fighter on the undercard.
        dude mexicans love this kid!!

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          #44
          Originally posted by Siggy View Post
          its simplistic thinking based on truth and recent history.
          explain SSM, RJJ, hopkins. explain to me why black american fighters have small fan bases?

          can you name the highest grossing PPV in recent history vs 2 black american fighters?

          its a sad reality, but its the truth. now, granted this fight will do well since theyre both names, but beating DLH numbers is unrealistic.
          Dude, wake up and smell the coffee. Andre Ward sold over 10,000 tickets for his fight with Mikkel Kessler. St Louis is starting to rally around Devon Alexander. He could potentially get to the point where's doing Cory Spinks 20,000 tickets sold type numbers fairly soon if he beats Urango. Tim Bradley has a loyal following in the Southern California deserts. Floyd Mayweather drew over 1,000 people for a press conference in the middle of the day during the middle of the week in DC, which is nowhere near where he's from.

          Even if you look through recent history the reality just doesn't support your thinking. Zab Judah had one of the most loyal fan bases you could imagine. Even Bob Arum attributed about 6,000 ticket sales to Judah fans for the Cotto fight. Judah-Spinks 2 in St Louis was the best attended fight in the US in the 00s decade. Jeff Lacy regularly drew big crowds in Tampa. Jermain Taylor drew huge crowds in Arkansas and even Tennessee and Mississippi.

          Obviously you're going to believe what you want to believe, but the idea that Black fighters can't develop fan bases in this day and age is wrong.

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            #45
            Originally posted by WAR MOSLEY View Post
            1 million max
            Dude I'll bet all your points this fight does well over 1 million buys.

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              #46
              Originally posted by javelin_fangs View Post
              Dude I'll bet all your points this fight does well over 1 million buys.

              deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              1 million max

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                #47
                Originally posted by WAR MOSLEY View Post
                deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                1 million max
                you've lost your mind....

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Siggy View Post
                  its simplistic thinking based on truth and recent history.
                  explain SSM, RJJ, hopkins. explain to me why black american fighters have small fan bases?

                  can you name the highest grossing PPV in recent history vs 2 black american fighters?

                  its a sad reality, but its the truth. now, granted this fight will do well since theyre both names, but beating DLH numbers is unrealistic.
                  How recent do you want me to focus on? If you're willing to go into the 90s the Tyson-Holyfield fights were among the most successful PPVs of all-time. If you want the last five years, Mayweather-Judah made a lot of money. It sold out the Thomas and Mack Center and did about 380,000 PPV buys. Nothing really special, but better than just about everything else between 2000 and about 2006 that didn't involve DLH.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by javelin_fangs View Post
                    Dude, wake up and smell the coffee. Andre Ward sold over 10,000 tickets for his fight with Mikkel Kessler. St Louis is starting to rally around Devon Alexander. He could potentially get to the point where's doing Cory Spinks 20,000 tickets sold type numbers fairly soon if he beats Urango. Tim Bradley has a loyal following in the Southern California deserts. Floyd Mayweather drew over 1,000 people for a press conference in the middle of the day during the middle of the week in DC, which is nowhere near where he's from.

                    Even if you look through recent history the reality just doesn't support your thinking. Zab Judah had one of the most loyal fan bases you could imagine. Even Bob Arum attributed about 6,000 ticket sales to Judah fans for the Cotto fight. Judah-Spinks 2 in St Louis was the best attended fight in the US in the 00s decade. Jeff Lacy regularly drew big crowds in Tampa. Jermain Taylor drew huge crowds in Arkansas and even Tennessee and Mississippi.

                    Obviously you're going to believe what you want to believe, but the idea that Black fighters can't develop fan bases in this day and age is wrong.
                    sure thing bro. stay optimistic. i see what i see. floyd cant even sell out in his own transplanted hometown after 6 months of promotion and giving away tickets.
                    tim bradley has NO following. neither does chad dawson. mosley, despite his success (more success than DLH) never turned out to be a stand alone draw.
                    paul williams, wheres his fan base? youd think with his style and personality hed have a growing one, but he doesnt.
                    etc, etc.
                    patriotism and ethnicity carries fan bases now. if a fighter in the US cant carry his own region, the chances of him building a growing fanbase is small cuz america is inundated with sports/athletes.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Pretty Boy Greg View Post
                      you've lost your mind....

                      One thing I am 100% sure that PACQUIAO CLOTTEY will sell more then 1.5 millions.


                      Floyd could sold more then 1 million with dance partner JMM,and JMM had all country behind him to buy PPV.

                      Floyd said that Mosley is not PPV attraction and that JMM is bigger attraction the MOSLEY.

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