Pac loses every ATG Fantasy match because...

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Zab is skillful no??

Styles makes fights no?

Have you ever even seen Pryor fight?

Or Judah?

He hates pressure, folds and has a crappy chin. Pryor stomps a mudhole in him.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I think The Hawk and Nelson would be AMAZING matchup's versus Manny. Wind them up, and let em go. ****'s would be wars. Hearn's would have ripped his head off, though.

Pryor and Nelson would be great to watch. So would a Duran fight for however long it lasted but yeah Hearns is all wrong for Pac.

[PensionKiller]

Styles makes fights no?

Have you ever even seen Pryor fight?

From what I have seen, he had a great chin and punched pretty hard. He was at 140 right?

Now Zab would get Kosta Zoo'd

[General Zod]

Whats the point of this thread? Isn't there enough Pac/Mayweather/ppv/ped threads already?

[BritishBoxing92]

Hes not skilled enough or good enough to beat most of them. He also doesnt have the right style in most of these fights.

Who does he beat?

Pryor? No.

Leonard? No.

Duran? No

Hearns? No.

Arguello? No.

Tito? No.

Pep? No.

Sanchez? No.

Benitez? No.

Whitaker? Hell No.

Gomez? No.

Nelson? No.

Saddler? No.

I can go on and on. So stop whining as if its some kind of B-Scene conspiracy against him. Hes not skilled enough or good enough to beat these guys. So stopping hyping him as this great mythical warrior. Pac is a ATG, no doubt. But stop with the Top 20 stuff.

Im tried of all his fans complaining that he never gets favored over the ATG's. There is a reason for that dont ya think? It has nothing to do with "hating" him.

Biased thread.....

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Whats the point of this thread? Isn't there enough Pac/Mayweather/ppv/ped threads already?

Last I checked this wasnt:

Pac vs. Mayweather thread

Or a PED Thread

Or a PPV Thread


Thx for playing. The point of this thread is in the title and opneing post. Next time try reading it.

[fabie]

Hes not skilled enough or good enough to beat most of them.

Who does he beat?

Pryor? No.

Leonard? No.

Duran? No

Hearns? No.

Arguello? No.

Tito? No.

Pep? No.

Sanchez? No.

Benitez? No.

Whitaker? Hell No.

Gomez? No.

Nelson? No.

Saddler? No.

I can go on and on. So stop whining as if its some kind of B-Scene conspiracy against him. Hes not skilled enough or good enough to beat these guys. So stopping hyping him as this great mythical warrior. Pac is a ATG, no doubt. But stop with the Top 20 stuff.

Im tried of all his fans complaining that he never gets favored over the ATG's. There is a reason for that dont ya think? It has nothing to do with "hating" him.

You MAY have a point or two about skills. But boxing is being competed in the ring and while boxing is beyond just skills what you overlooked is that he's got heart, tenacity and then some.

That could also override skills and that could very well be a "skill" also.

Many so called SKILLED BOXERS can be beaten by boxers who are "lesser" than they are because of their lack of stamina, heart and then some. And thus that's the beauty of boxing. It's a good thing.

Just like in life, the smartest aren't always the successful ones but those also who has the big heart (determination), hard work, passion and then some.

Skills AND the heart is an awesome combination but to see Pacquiao and his unprecendented records. His opponents....I see why many people would "hate" him or try to negate his records.

Boxing can be as subjective just as in life...it isn't just the strongest, quickest and most skillful that rules the sport. And thanks GOD that it isn't just that way.

For Pacquiao also have SKILLS, heart, determination...and then some. It's better to give one proper dues just like those legends or greats you just mentioned on your list.

In a game of life, one can always be beaten. But it is the heart that fuels actions and life. An inspired life is beyond mere skills. For techniques and skills can be taught, learned and disseminated.

But no one can teach the ways of the heart.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

From what I have seen, he had a great chin and punched pretty hard. He was at 140 right?

Now Zab would get Kosta Zoo'd

Yeah Pryor might be one of the worst style matchups for Judah. Yeah he was a Junior WW.

[jrosales13]

You MAY have a point or two about skills. But boxing is being competed in the ring and while boxing is beyond just skills what you overlooked is that he's got heart, tenacity and then some.

That could also override skills and that could very well be a "skill" also.

Many so called SKILLED BOXERS can be beaten by boxers who are "lesser" than they are because of their lack of stamina, heart and then some. And thus that's the beauty of boxing. It's a good thing.

Just like in life, the smartest aren't always the successful ones but those also who has the big heart (determination), hard work, passion and then some.

Skills AND the heart is an awesome combination but to see Pacquiao and his unprecendented records. His opponents....I see why many people would "hate" him or try to negate his records.

Boxing can be as subjective just as in life...it isn't just the strongest, quickest and most skillful that rules the sport. And thanks GOD that it isn't just that way.

For Pacquiao also have SKILLS, heart, determination...and then some. It's better to give one proper dues just like those legends or greats you just mentioned on your list.

In a game of life, one can always be beaten. But it is the heart that fuels actions and life. An inspired life is beyond mere skills. For techniques and skills can be taught, learned and disseminated.

But no one can teach the ways of the heart.

good post....

[Jim Jeffries]

So how many of these WWs does Floyd beat?

Ray Robinson - No
Ray Leonard - No
Tommy Hearns - Hell no
Duran - No
Pernell Whitaker - No
Vernon Forrest - No

Does that mean Floyd is unskilled? No, just that WW isn't Floyd's best weight.