Who has a better defense? Marcos Maidana or Lucas Matthysse?

[daggum]

I thought the Maidana from the second Mayweather fight could beat almost everyone at Welterweight.

he looked completely impotent in the second fight. he won what 2 rounds and floyd held him the entire fight and he couldn't do a thing. did you mean the first fight?

[SalimShady1212]

Joel Diaz on Bradley sparring Matthysse: "he has great defence, you throw 10 punches you might him once or twice". "Real strong fighter, he's something else, he can box"


Around the 4 min mark.

[SplitSecond]

maidana got dropped 3 times vs ortiz, dropped vs khan, hurt vs lopez and soto karass, and dropped in the ams by lucas "no defense" matthysse yet you think he has good defense? yes he is the next floyd mayweather just like khan

Dropped by Alexander also. Don't think it was counted though.

[Dean_Razorback]

i think chino got a lot better with robert, but imo lucas is the better boxer. vs provo he got caught in the eleventh round, and in that fight he threw twice the number of punches he usually throws (over 1000), he was getting tired. he was making garcia miss a lot while he had both eyes. these guys are not floyd, they are gonna get caught at some point anyway.

[Dean_Razorback]

It's not fair to use facial damage as a metric in this one. Matthysse bruises and cuts rather easily in comparison. I'd say Mattysse is the easier to hit of the two, but has the better defense abilities in a technical sense.

With Maidana, the way he fights he puts himself in a position where he's hard as hell to hit because his head is buried in your chest and ****.

I feel like Maidana puts himself in a position where he's way harder to hit when you let him impose his style. Conversely, Matthysse is always throwing bombs from the outside and getting touched up in the process. That's why I'd say Maidana has the better defense overall.

this is true. i've never seen chino busted up after a fight, even after ortiz, where he went down 3 times. he ended up with just a little cut in one of his cheeks. after the fight with khan, he was looking better than amir. lucas got the same eye that was shut down vs garcia also shut down vs harris too, and i don't remember him being caught flush in that fight.

[Showtime..]

Both have a very underrated defense.
I would have to go with Marcos though because of his more aggresive style and how well manages to not get hit. I mean, Maidana made Floyd look like a fool at times in the 1st fight.

[ElMeroChingon]

Maidana's aggressive style puts him on a position to get hit alot more than Mathysse, he prefers to stay in close.

That being said, i saw alot of improvement during his fights with Mayweather, specifically head movement and how controlled his distance pretty well in spots against Mayweather, backed him up against the ropes in the 2nd fight, unfortunately FLoyd ended up having to clinch everytime.

[-Kev-]

Maidana is hurt just about every fight. He has been down 5 times in his career. Matthysse has been down once and he wasn't exactly knocked on his back.

And note that Matthysse has faced the better opposition and the bigger punchers.

EDIT: outside of Mayweather.

Why are you subtracting knock downs from Matthysse and fabricating additional knock downs on Maidana? Matthysse has been down 3 times. Maidana 4 times.

[TheSwiftAsSa5in]

Matthysse has better defense, but Maidana would win if they fought.

[-Kev-]

Matthysse has faced the better opposition and the bigger punchers.

Huh?

Ortiz
Khan
Alexander
Mayweather 2x
Broner
Karrass
Morales
Corley

Judah
Corley
Alexander
Soto
Peterson
Garcia
Molina
Provodnikov