Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Looks To Jacobs - as WBA Orders The Fight!

[Elroy The Great]

Un fcuking believable. And this is how you end up with posters that don't understand the basics of weight classes

so......you wont substantiate your claims ?

[Scipio2009]

You do realize what "pricing yourself out" means? Theres a difference between ducking and your opponent pricing themselves out.

Then again you're a pbc fan so i should expect even less from you than i would from the average nsb troll.

Golovkin has gone to the public with an open willingness to fight Alvarez for $3m, after already going to the public with only being willing to entertain a 50/50 split fight with Andre Ward were he willing to cut down 4lbs (which makes it rather obvious that the price to actually stand by his word and fight Ward at 168lbs being so ridiculous that he didn't want to have that number made public).

Money matters have already helped kill another handful of Golovkin fights, and that's not going to change either.

K2 seems to know what's up; a fighter is willing to fight whoever, but K2 seems to know a live fight when they see one, and they've done a stellar job at shifting the blame for live fights not happening away to someone else.

Jacobs may have a price in his head, but he's not going to be the one staging the fight.

The bid is coming, K2 will write down what they think the fight is worth, DiBella will write down what he thinks the fight is worth, and we'll see how everyone reacts to the winning bid.

$3m was the payout for Golovkin-Wade. The payout for the Golovkin-Lemieux PPV was basically $4m. The payout for Golovkin-Monroe was disclosed to be almost $2m.

K2 can't plead poverty forever; eventually, just like every other fighter who's actually wanted to achieve anything, Golovkin is going to have to, for once, give up a little bit to help make fights work.

Otherwise, the belts will end up leaving him the same way they arrive; by mail (the IBF bid is likely coming due, and the WBC mandatory bid isn't too far behind that).

[HeroBando]

so......you wont substantiate your claims ?

Because it's a dumb request to make. But here's one. Thurman and Porter split 2.4m for the biggest fight this year on Pbc. Does that help, need a link for those purses?

[Elroy The Great]

i dont think hbo is not taking the fight due to it being a possible dud but because of money being allocated elsewhere. i forget where i read dec was a tough month budget wise.

Regardless of the state of their budget, no network can ever afford that. The B side mando challenger passed on an offer cause he can make that much fighting 2 Quillins. It has to be ppv with those expectations

sooooooooo.......a ''worse'' match up was never worked into a networks budget before ?!?!? plenty of a sides fought d sides (should i name every mike tyson opponent prior to buster).

no, jacobs is not afraid of 3g. i voted him to ko/tko 3b by the 8th.

Hey you were confused about weight limits so I'm not surprised this is way beyond your reach. But Cliffs notes:. No network is ever paying out 4m in purses, not even for much more competitive fights. This would require tons more, per Jacobs "wait a minute, I could fight 2 Quillins". Need more hints?

im all about links

thanks

What do you need links for, dummy? How the fcuk could you miss this, it's like 2 weeks old:

http://jeetwin24.com/jacobs-il...-money--108136

goober, i meant links to no network shelling out 4mil. i guess somethings has to be spelled out

Because it's a dumb request to make. But here's one. Thurman and Porter split 2.4m for the biggest fight this year on Pbc. Does that help, need a link for those purses?

dont lose the plot. remember, im a dummy (but not so dumb ill just take anyones typed word as the end all be all). i need links. if you cant supply, leave it at that.

[Tomjas]

A bid of $6m earns Jacobs "Quillin money" plus the upside on the event that'll be pushed by DiBella Entertainment/Showtime.

Not sure how aggressively DiBella would end up pricing the event, but I have no doubt that he'll be able to sell out the full Barclays Center for the fight. With Showtime likely pushing the fight with 3 episodes of 'All Access' (two in camp, and the epilogue), with the added benefit of the fight also likely getting some attention in the PBC orbit and the New York media circuit/ESPN, the PPV isn't going to do poorly either.

You add K2 paying DiBella to get the rights to the German/Ukraine/Eastern European TV, the value of the other international TV rights, the sponsorships, and other revenues and Jacobs is in line to make well more than "Quillin money" on the upside of the event.

$2m-$3m at the live gate at Barclays Center, easily $15m off of the PPV (300k PPV buys at $50; net out the money to the distributors/Showtime and you'd still have $7m heading into the pot.), the sponsors, the international TV, and other revenues on one side, with the $6m bid cost for the event, plus the costs related to even staging the event on the other side and you've pretty comfortably netted out a good-sized gain on the full event (which DiBella and Jacobs will end up sharing).

Sorry Scipio but this is all dreamland stuff

I like Jacobs and think that this is comfortably the best fight that can be made at MW BUT he isnt a draw

Goog luck to them if they are willing to punt big money on a fight where he is a B side but I dont see K2 or HBO sitting idly by whilst they make money off GGG's name.

As Jacobs is not contracted to any network, I think it's far more likely that Uncle Al stands aside and accepts his cut whilst not putting up a dime from his ever-diminishing bank

After all, he has already taken a big hit on at least one Jacobs fight

[elgu]

Golovkin has gone to the public with an open willingness to fight Alvarez for $3m, after already going to the public with only being willing to entertain a 50/50 split fight with Andre Ward were he willing to cut down 4lbs (which makes it rather obvious that the price to actually stand by his word and fight Ward at 168lbs being so ridiculous that he didn't want to have that number made public).

Money matters have already helped kill another handful of Golovkin fights, and that's not going to change either.

K2 seems to know what's up; a fighter is willing to fight whoever, but K2 seems to know a live fight when they see one, and they've done a stellar job at shifting the blame for live fights not happening away to someone else.

Jacobs may have a price in his head, but he's not going to be the one staging the fight.

The bid is coming, K2 will write down what they think the fight is worth, DiBella will write down what he thinks the fight is worth, and we'll see how everyone reacts to the winning bid.

$3m was the payout for Golovkin-Wade. The payout for the Golovkin-Lemieux PPV was basically $4m. The payout for Golovkin-Monroe was disclosed to be almost $2m.

K2 can't plead poverty forever; eventually, just like every other fighter who's actually wanted to achieve anything, Golovkin is going to have to, for once, give up a little bit to help make fights work.

Otherwise, the belts will end up leaving him the same way they arrive; by mail (the IBF bid is likely coming due, and the WBC mandatory bid isn't too far behind that).

Ward ducked ggg in 2013 and then wanted to stall with a tune up before fighting ggg when the next offer came. He was told to piss off and rightfully so considering he never made 168 again and had ducked once.

As for the bid, i already told you whats going on there. When pbc plummets, which will be pretty soon, Jacobs will be brought back down to earth. He will get paid what he is worth and he will be lucky to see 500,000 based on his last two matches.

[Scipio2009]

Sorry Scipio but this is all dreamland stuff

I like Jacobs and think that this is comfortably the best fight that can be made at MW BUT he isnt a draw

Goog luck to them if they are willing to punt big money on a fight where he is a B side but I dont see K2 or HBO sitting idly by whilst they make money off GGG's name.

As Jacobs is not contracted to any network, I think it's far more likely that Uncle Al stands aside and accepts his cut whilst not putting up a dime from his ever-diminishing bank

After all, he has already taken a big hit on at least one Jacobs fight

Question Jacobs' drawing ability if you want, Brooklyn's champion (and arguably the #2 MW on the planet) fighting the #1 MW, and hyped "wrecking machine", at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, is going to sell out the building (price the tickets $500-$50, and I'd even guess that the secondary market for seats would be aggressive).

Haymon's bet, at middleweight, was to either have Peter Quillin or Daniel Jacobs break through to superstar status; Haymon's never been afraid to put the money up, and I don't see him turning chicken one fight away from seeing whether the bet on Jacobs pays off.

Because, if it hits and Jacobs beats Golovkin, Haymon will have the #1 middleweight on the planet, all of 30 years old, with fights against Billy Joe Saunders, Andy Lee, and Chris Eubank Jr, among other fights, in the cue, with Barclays Center (one of the top venues in world boxing) as his home arena. Though the Alvarez fight is also a future option, with no real "omg, this young guy is going to blast out everyone" fighters coming up at 160 currently, Daniel Jacobs could end up having a really strong run at the top of 160lbs.

Personally, I don't think that K2/HBO think much of anything for the fight; Jacobs is the mandatory defense and a good fighter, but the big financial fight that they still have their eyes on is Saul Alvarez. Even with the win, Golovkin (likely almost 35 at the time), possibly still doesn't bring the money to lock-in the Saunders fight (over the package that Saunders could get if he just waited for Alvarez), and Alvarez is literally a bad negotiation away from using the "he's pricing himself out of the fight" argument to say to hell with Golovkin (the WBO having little interest in helping facilitate title unifications would alleviate that external pressure too).

Those two fights fall through, and Golovkin is left bum fishing for however much time he physically has left to compete, exclusively on regular HBO.

Jacobs is 5 years younger than Golovkin; ability for ability aside and ignoring possible, Haymon has at least 10 more fights than what K2 has left with Golovkin to make up any possible losses. There's literally near no reason for Haymon to advice Jacobs to take short money on arguably the biggest fight of his career; I don't think that, in the grand scheme of things, K2 sees this fight as being all that big for Golovkin.