All ex-Soviet fighters just had some luck, they weren't supposed to be in pro boxing

[Kigali]

Lets just hope they stop taking drugs and come to the land of the free home of the brave and get schooled by American coaches....and learn to speak English (properly ) and like OP mentioned develop some charisma.

Since they're so awesome..let them stay in their own Country and get coached by their own...since they're so awesome.

Why would they need us inferior Americans?

[g27region]

Well...like you said in your initial post there are no professional Eastern-Euro boxers so by default American and other countries including GB would automatically have a higher count...in addition it think bringing up the armature system is relevant : guys like Usyk,Loma,Kovalev all participated in them and won prominent prominent tournaments propelling their careers with favor into the pros as many of them get world title fights in their first few professional bouts and I suspect they might of been doping based off recent revelations ; exposing the Russian.

You suspect and it's based off recent "revelations" (I don't even want to talk about politic stuff behind it - all big countries got caught with it at different points) and "since they were so good in Olympics, they're probably taking drugs" logic (well, if your last gold winner was 12 years ago somebody is supposed to win these prominent tournaments, I guess)

Even considering that, all these fighters you've mentioned getting tested in America at the end of the day

See, you even admit in your own message that it's just your assumption, you suspect it which means it's not the actual fact

I don't suspect anything, I state facts and it's a fact that Tyson was juicing - he said it himself, same with Shane Mosley - he admitted he was taking steroids. The list goes on

That's the difference

[1hourRun]

Since they're so awesome..let them stay in their own Country and get coached by their own...since they're so awesome.

Why would they need us inferior Americans?

You're absolutely right! what was I thinking.

You suspect and it's based off recent "revelations" (I don't even want to talk about politic stuff behind it - all big countries got caught with it at different points) and "since they were so good in Olympics, they're probably taking drugs" logic (well, if your last gold winner was 12 years ago somebody is supposed to win these prominent tournaments, I guess)

Even considering that, all these fighters you've mentioned getting tested in America at the end of the day

See, you even admit in your own message that it's just your assumption, you suspect it which means it's not the actual fact

I don't suspect anything, I state facts and it's a fact that Tyson was juicing - he said it himself, same with Shane Mosley - he admitted he was taking steroids. The list goes on

That's the difference

Forgive me.....you see when your own government encourages you to be a cheat its hard not to suspect....I'll try to give these guys a shot.

[g27region]

You're absolutely right! what was I thinking.

Forgive me.....you see when your own government encourages you to be a cheat its hard not to suspect....I'll try to give these guys a shot.

Well, I'm giving these American fighters a shot, despite the fact that there's way more of them got caught taking drugs, so you probably will have to try that

Since you mentioned Lomachenko and Usyk, I suspect that according to you, Ukraine was sponsoring some drug programs as well? I guess the country is wealthy enough to pull off something like that. Or that **** with blaming Ukraine fighters for that is just your another assumption based off the "revelations" about Russia?

[Kigali]

You're absolutely right! what was I thinking.

Forgive me.....you see when your own government encourages you to be a cheat its hard not to suspect....I'll try to give these guys a shot.

Let them do their own thing since they're so superhuman.

[1hourRun]

Well, I'm giving these American fighters a shot, despite the fact that there's way more of them got caught taking drugs, so you probably will have to try that

Since you mentioned Lomachenko and Usyk, I suspect that according to you, Ukraine was sponsoring some drug programs as well? I guess the country is wealthy enough to pull off something like that. Or that **** with blaming Ukraine fighters for that is just your another assumption based off the "revelations" about Russia?

You're right I was being ****** again. I thought they where the same country...dont they speak Russian? I woulnt know they all sound the same...Americani-Eh...E******...Eh...I lives here....I figh Mexican style...de white peoplz in Americaaz no support Ukra-in box...only Mexican hlpz us in Uuuuusa.

[PK3434]

The talent pool is deep and many never turn pro but Golovkin in particular, has opened up a lot of doors in that regard. Every promoter is signing guys from that part of the world, looking to find the next Golovkin.

[Pigeons]

Here's the offer for you, for every Russian boxer who got caught cheating you can name, I'll name American fighter who's juicing as well, and the person who won't be able to continue is going to give all points to the winner. Don't back down

You can start with Russian boxers and name Roy Jones Jr. first

But you just said that 70% of ex-Soviet fighters don't turn pro. I have a much smaller pool of fighters to work with. Just the fact that we can play this game is bad for you.

V. Klitschko
Povetkin
Novikov
Mikhalkin
Aloyan
Fonfara
Wach

[Kigali]

The talent pool is deep and many never turn pro but Golovkin in particular, has opened up a lot of doors in that regard. Every promoter is signing guys from that part of the world, looking to find the next Golovkin.

the talent pool is old.

[betmen]

why not try make it big in mother russia??

you complain about nationalist agenda, i think is very logical if u.s promotor or american fans support their own countrymen instead of foreigner. boxing is a sport and sport is usually very nationalist/race/tribal thing.

and is justified since american pro boxer talent roster itself is still the best in the world, they maybe got steamrolled in the amateur lately but with how good american boxing environment is those weaker amateur talents can still develop to be great boxers in the pro level.