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    #21
    Originally posted by JohnCastellanos View Post
    Yeah right!!! Your cover was blown the day you lost your belt for ducking your mandatory!!! GTFOH with the lies!!!
    Exactly!!! He should have fought Billy Joe Saunders before Canelo anyway. He could have been undisputed champion already which would have gave him more leverage in negotiations with Canelo the first time.

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      #22
      Originally posted by richardt View Post
      No, not from a business / financial standpoint. There isnt a business consultant on the planet who works in boxing that would advise GGG to fight Derevyanchenko for almost 10% of what he would make against Canelo, hence the risk vs reward common sense approach. GGG's team knew exactly what they were doing by not risking the Canelo fight and now they have that huge payday lined up.



      being a champion brings responsibilities

      Golovkin has mentioned those responsibilities repeatedly

      Golovkin: I chose Dominic Wade because he’s my IBF mandatory


      sometimes, you actually have to get your hands dirty in this game

      what you just admitted..... is that Golovkin is ALL about risk/reward (like I have ALWAYS said).....

      ..... and you essentially stated that ducking a mando for better money is perfectly acceptable..... and boxing fans never used to talk like that

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        #23
        Originally posted by chubuk7 View Post
        How do you know? Who said that BS?
        Its BS because u dont want that fight. CHARLO should get winner!

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          #24
          Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats View Post
          Saunders should tell Loeffler go fk himself since he snitched on real reason he did a sucker move and pulled out Murray fight
          Who cares about Murray fight? It was pretty much useless fight.

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            #25
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
            being a champion brings responsibilities

            Golovkin has mentioned those responsibilities repeatedly

            Golovkin: I chose Dominic Wade because he’s my IBF mandatory


            sometimes, you actually have to get your hands dirty in this game

            what you just admitted..... is that Golovkin is ALL about risk/reward (like I have ALWAYS said).....

            ..... and you essentially stated that ducking a mando for better money is perfectly acceptable..... and boxing fans never used to talk like that
            During the time he fought Wade, he was not solidifying a deal for one of the biggest fights in boxing at the time for his biggest payday nor was Wade considered a threat to that huge payday or he would have changed his tune, like any fighter would, regarding any talk of responsibilities to mandatories and given anything for the big payday. Again, yes, it is about business first. A lot of fighters have good principles but those principles can be bought and sold on the open market when it is convenient to them. Good thing he and his team didnt listen to all the boxing business experts on here who said he should be happy with 30%! Cause he and his team proved to be smarter than the "experts" here which is stating the very obvious cause a lot of people here are writing posts - while GGG and his team are signing multi-million dollar deals. Good thing team GGG didnt put up a poll asking the amazing financial experts on here what he should do regarding the canelo fight cause he would have lost millions because of these fine experts we have right on this site that are ready to jump in and help. As to the fight, I have no clue who wins this one. So many variables with temperament, different judges, maybe a different fight plan for one or the other or both.
            Last edited by richardt; 06-18-2018, 08:50 PM.

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              #26
              I think this will be Golovkin's last fight. He old.

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                #27
                He scurred of Charlo!!!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by richardt View Post
                  During the time he fought Wade, he was not solidifying a deal for one of the biggest fights in boxing at the time for his biggest payday nor was Wade considered a threat to that to a huge payday or he would have changed his tine regarding any talk of responsibilities to mandatories and given anything for the big payday. Again, yes, it is about business first.A lot of fighters have good principles but those principles can be bought and sold on the open market when it is convenient to them.

                  so..... those fighters do not have good principles at all, or even close

                  my main point was

                  until Golovkin..... I had never heard 1 single fan state that money is a justifiable reason to avoid your mandatory

                  not once, EVER !

                  just the opposite

                  Golovkin fans - you included? - TORCHED Canelo for vacating his belt, when Team Bullshht were refusing to negotiate in good faith by attempting to manipulate Canelo into an undeserved 45% split by forcing a purse bid

                  and btw, Canelo continued to negotiate with Golovkin, but that negotiation died over the weight..... same as the last negotiation

                  whereas Golovkin made no effort whatsoever to negotiate with Derevyanchenko..... he was given an exemption to allow the Vanes debacle to proceed, but he refused to commit to Derevyanchenko in writing

                  Golovkin's principles were not sold..... they were mythical

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                    #29
                    when did money become a justifiable reason to duck your mando?


                    nope, NOT with Canelo..... because AFTER he vacated the WBC strap, Canelo continued to negotiate with Team Bull****..... those talks died because the two sides were unable to agree upon weight


                    ..... and after moving up to 160, Canelo fought Golovkin..... and now he is about to fight him again..... so yea, that rubbish did not start with Canelo

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                      so..... those fighters do not have good principles at all, or even close

                      my main point was

                      until Golovkin..... I had never heard 1 single fan state that money is a justifiable reason to avoid your mandatory

                      not once, EVER !

                      just the opposite

                      Golovkin fans - you included? - TORCHED Canelo for vacating his belt, when Team Bullshht were refusing to negotiate in good faith by attempting to manipulate Canelo into an undeserved 45% split by forcing a purse bid

                      and btw, Canelo continued to negotiate with Golovkin, but that negotiation died over the weight..... same as the last negotiation

                      whereas Golovkin made no effort whatsoever to negotiate with Derevyanchenko..... he was given an exemption to allow the Vanes debacle to proceed, but he refused to commit to Derevyanchenko in writing

                      Golovkin's principles were not sold..... they were mythical
                      Every fighter has mythical principles. Money changes everything. One guy in Canelo gave up his title to at that time avoid the bigger fight and the other guy GGG gave up his title to fight the bigger fight. Different situations, different levels of backlash. As long as they clear up their reputation and legacy, thats what matters in the end.
                      Last edited by richardt; 06-18-2018, 09:37 PM.

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