how do you know if you are? i'm tryin to get runnin, weight training and boxing into my schedule, but my coach told me not to do weight training and boxing in the same day because i'd be overtraining. would running and weight training or runnin and boxing be alright on the same day?
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i maintained the pace you mentioned for almost two months before overtraining, but i did end up overtrained. -
this is a dangerous philosophy. its really easy to overtrain, especially if you are not an elite athlete because your body hasnt adapted to intense workouts. you have to build up to training at the level that you are suggesting is "hard enough." this is exactly the misinformed outlook that breeds overtraining.Originally posted by Lenny McLean View Post
you can tell if you are overtraining by unshakeable fatigue, drop in performance levels, loss of appetite, depression, loss of enthusiasm for the sport, joint pains....
rest is just as important a variable of program design as anything else (reps, intensity, sets, etc). thats why boxers have camps. they ideally have a program design that peaks right before their fight. it explains why people like vernon forrest (vs mora) and paul williams (vs quintana) look shabby when their fights got rescheduled for a later date. it throws off the whole schedule and they peak to soon so that by the time the fight arrives, they have been overtraining...Comment
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simple answer: weight train and box on one day. i've done that since day one. normally, i warmup with 3-6 rounds of jump rope before doing plyos and other strength training against my own body weight (pushups, pullups, dips, box jumps, burpees, situps, planks, etc). then i finish with skills (shadowboxing, double end bag, mittwork, heavy bag). if i spar, i warm up with jump rope and then i spar first thing. then i do skills, then strength training. u run on off days for starters.... account for at least one day of rest.Originally posted by rufige View Post
other factors depend on how fatiguing your typical day is when you are not training. do you work or go to school? if so, you have to figure in that toll that takes on your body (in terms of commute, activity (i.e. construction, etc))...
not everyone is a pro boxer with unlimited resources, such as TIME, the best supplements and equipment, etc.... when all you have to do all do is train, its easier to do more and get adequate rest, but if you are training after work before you have to pick up the kids from school and take them to the doctor, then getting only 4 hours of sleep, etc- youll encounter a prob sooner.Comment
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So if i pass out, would tht be classed as over training?Originally posted by Lenny McLean View PostComment
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No. You should push harder. I pass out at least three times during my warm up.Originally posted by msagrain View PostComment
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I've over trained. It's easy for a boxer to do, as the sport is not only strenous but also because many fighters have limit calorie intake at the same time.
I know i've overtrained, running everyday, training 2/3 hours and then weight routine whilst attempting to cut weight. It led to cutting my season short - joggers knee and tennis elbow - not to mention that quick cutting of weight made skin weak and i ended up with a gash over my right eye.
Rest and recovery is almost as important in training as the actual training itself. Train hard by all means, but train smart at the same time. Sometimes you can be doing more damage than good.Comment
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I'd say that's more of a conditioning workout than strength, I think he means free weights. In which case I hate doing on the same day as I go to the gym, I feel too bulky, so Instead I do it on my days away, twice a week. A good measure at the start is 2 days on one day off, you can lengthen it as your body adapts to the workload. But eventually you get to the point where you want to work everyday as you feel as if your cheating yourself if you don't. Don't do that or you'll end up with an injury (I tore my hamstring), you could ruin your shoulders, etc. Find the limits of your body and listen to it, that is the only real judge.Originally posted by mspiegelo View PostComment
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