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    #21
    i think that, to a point both sides are right. for instance margarito can take a harder punch clean on the chin than can miguel cotto. at the same time, both fighters have learned how to take a punch better than when they 21 22 23 years old. however they have not neccesarily, through being hit on the chin, caused the lining of their brain to densen or the nerve behind their jaw to strengthen. they have just, over time, learned their own abilities and limits, and developed an effective mechanism for coping with them.

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      #22
      sweet bro. all posts have made sence and have interesting points. much appreciated

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        #23
        Originally posted by DempseyMarciano View Post
        Being able to absorb a punch or punches, is all in the mind. Jake LaMotta was often quoted as saying, "That before I ever stepped in the ring, I made up my mind that no matter the outcome of the fight, nobody will ever hurt me." Nobody ever did. Including Ray Robinson. It depends how much "Refusal to Yield" a fighter has in him or her. Conditioning plays a big part to.
        Hey, i got a bridge i would like to sell you.

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          #24
          ive sparred a few times and i honestly cant tell if ive been hit hard yet. Ive never been staggered or owt like that. Ive took a few shots that seemed to rattle my brain and my eyes went funny for a split second but thats about it. i like to think ive got a hard chin but its impossible to tell unless you have videos or someone tells you

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            #25
            Originally posted by Equilibrium View Post
            Hey, i got a bridge i would like to sell you.



            Great post! !

            There is a few too many theorists in this forum.

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              #26
              Originally posted by potatoes View Post
              Great post! !

              There is a few too many theorists in this forum.
              shrug, maybe I missed something, but what the guy was saying didn't sound like a theory to me.

              He was talking about something jake said before a fight, how he made up his mind that he would do whatever it takes...thats not really theory...

              Theory is Tyson vs Ali type ****..

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                #27
                Surely getting punched will improve your chin? Look at it this way, you've never had a fight in your life (as in any form of fighting), someone punches you, what will happen? You get shock. However if you get used to being wacked about, then being punched in your first spar/boxing match will come less to a shock to you?

                Am I talking gibberish or?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Oriachim View Post
                  Surely getting punched will improve your chin? Look at it this way, you've never had a fight in your life (as in any form of fighting), someone punches you, what will happen? You get shock. However if you get used to being wacked about, then being punched in your first spar/boxing match will come less to a shock to you?

                  Am I talking gibberish or?
                  no, that makes sense. if you understand the type of pain you are about to feel, and have accepted it, it will affect you less.

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                    #29
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                    I've only been here a week or so, and already i pretty much no all the wanna-be's here. Stormi'Norman is correct, my inital reply wasn't a theory at all. It's pretty much fact. If a fighter is determind that the other fellow, no matter what he throw's at him, isn't going to knock him out, he isn't going anywhere.

                    Mind over matter.
                    Last edited by DempseyMarciano; 08-27-2008, 09:27 PM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DempseyMarciano View Post
                      I've only been here a week or so, and already i pretty much no all the wanna-be's here. Stormi'Norman is correct, my inital reply wasn't a theory at all. It's pretty much fact. If a fighter is determind that the other fellow, no matter what he throw's at him, isn't going to knock him out, he isn't going anywhere.

                      Mind over matter.
                      That might work. Like if I say to myself ĻI will win� and I am determined to win, no matter what the other fighter does, then I will win, end of story. Why did someone tell me that earlier and I could have won all my fights! mind over matter wow.

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