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    #21
    Originally posted by Beercules View Post

    Dude. Its useless. This vaccine was to prevent you getting Covid.


    Now all of a sudden people, WHO ARE VACCINATED are contracting this virus.


    Clearly something is wrong with this man.


    Now LA is mandating masks again. Is this vaccine even FDA approved yet or is that not until 2023?
    You're surprised that some people are infected even though they are vaccinated?

    Interesting. Perhaps you should do some reading up on vaccines. Pfizer and Moderna have published their trial data.

    What are your thoughts on the FLU vaccine? Do have the same opinion that something is wrong clearly wrong because about a third of those vaccinated go on to develop symptoms?

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      #22
      Originally posted by Dakuwaqa View Post

      You're surprised that some people are infected even though they are vaccinated?

      Interesting. Perhaps you should do some reading up on vaccines. Pfizer and Moderna have published their trial data.

      What are your thoughts on the FLU vaccine? Do have the same opinion that something is wrong clearly wrong because about a third of those vaccinated go on to develop symptoms?
      Send me a couple links and ill read up.


      I'm not talking about the Flu. Lets stick to the topic at hand: this vaccine is not effective, double jab right?


      Is it even FDA approved man? I heard its not until 2023 so what's going on?

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        #23
        Originally posted by Beercules View Post

        Send me a couple links and ill read up.


        I'm not talking about the Flu. Lets stick to the topic at hand: this vaccine is not effective, double jab right?


        Is it even FDA approved man? I heard its not until 2023 so what's going on?
        A bit on vaccine effectiveness



        Becoming infected doesn't mean that the vaccines are useless or not worth having. Like I've mentioned they provide a two-pronged attack by producing antibodies as well as inducing T cells that attack the virus if you become infected.

        Pfizer has never claimed that the vaccine is 100% effective at preventing infection. In the trials it showed it was 100% at preventing death. Obviously these numbers have been reduced slightly by the different variants.



        Last edited by Dakuwaqa; 07-19-2021, 05:58 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Dakuwaqa View Post

          A bit on vaccine effectiveness



          Becoming infected doesn't mean that the vaccine is useless or not worth having. Like I've mentioned they provide a two-pronged attack by producing antibodies as well as inducing T cells that attack the virus if you become infected.

          Pfizer has never claimed that the vaccine is 100% effective at preventing infection. In the trials it showed it was 100% at preventing death. Obviously these numbers have been reduced slightly by the different variants.



          If they aren't 100% effective, they all harm some people, you still need to wear a mask and social distance, then why try and push them so much? If people don't want them, leave them alone. 99% survival chance... their body, their choice.
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            #25
            Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury View Post

            If they aren't 100% effective, they all harm some people, you still need to wear a mask and social distance, then why try and push them so much? If people don't want them, leave them alone. 99% survival chance... their body, their choice.
            You keep posting that lame tweet.

            You do know women taking the contreceptive pill can still get pregnant right? Many thousands do. Like the covid vaccines they aren't 100% effective.

            I guess you don't spend much time with females so you probably wouldn't know that.
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              #26
              Originally posted by man down View Post
              Bahaha they're saying Harris has covid. She met with these dems and yes she has the vaccine.
              and she was kissing her loser husband through a mask too lmfao
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                #27
                Originally posted by Beercules View Post

                Kidding? The vaccine is supposed to stop people from contracting Covid.


                Fully vaccinated people are getting the virus. You don't see the issue ?
                They're moving the goalposts again. Now "It's not meant to keep you from getting Covid, just keeps you from dying from it."

                Almost like 98% of people weren't already not dying from it.

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                  #28
                  Vaccine is a massive help. 60% of the hospitalisations are unvaccinated in this country and the actual deaths are down exponentially. Meaning the vacc is preventing serious illness.

                  And this delta is a nightmare and tbf I'm not even in the loop of other variants anymore. The data is all the vaccines have provided protection against serious illness.

                  There are other treatments that like dex and others that work well, different ventilator settings etc. So some of it is know how now really. But ICU is full where I work and I've not been called back, operating lists are still running. It is a very very very very very different picture.

                  We might get locked down again but the fact we are rumbling on now was not possible before.

                  It is the vaccine that has helped. Nothing else. Not really.

                  People generally only present with Covid when they're absolutely f.ucked.

                  I'm not trying to correct anyone at this stage though. That ship has sailed. Do what you want but look after other people by isolating if you feel s.hit and wear a mask indoors and alcogel your hands.
                  Last edited by Sparked_26; 07-21-2021, 05:54 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

                    They're moving the goalposts again. Now "It's not meant to keep you from getting Covid, just keeps you from dying from it."

                    Almost like 98% of people weren't already not dying from it.
                    You’re one of those people that’s thinks being ignorant makes you cool.

                    It doesn’t.

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                      #30
                      I think from the beginning people have misunderstood that covid is a healthcare crisis and ultimately not something that is going to bump us all off. It is a crisis for the healthcare system and its ability to keep people alive from ALL CAUSE MORTALITY.

                      I don't know If that dynamic is different in America because you dont have universal healthcare. You'll step all over each other over there. It is your culture.

                      But...even then

                      In real terms, someone turns up at hospital basically turning blue. They need an ICU bed. You dont have any left. You put them on a ward. You repurpose that ward. So no more orthopaedic surgery. Heart ops? Cant do it because there are no post op ICU beds. Cancer? I dunno when we can get you in to check? Not now there are covid patients spilling out over ICU and populating general wards.

                      People, equipment, resources are finite. Especially when people are repurposed.

                      You got elderly people who you cant find places for in community. You need them gone.

                      And on and on and on.

                      So what do you actually need?

                      People to stop showing up in the emergency room f.ucking blue in more numbers that you can cope with.

                      That is literally it.

                      Nobody gives a **** if you had covid and it wasnt much to you. Absolutely, entirely and utterly irrelevant selfish Susan. Shut your silly little t.its up.
                      Last edited by Sparked_26; 07-21-2021, 07:21 AM.

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