Battle of Fallujah - why did the US army/marines keep losing fallujah during Iraq war

[Beercules]

Where were you deployed?

Sangin, Afghan


Helmand for a short period. Never iraq.(too ****ing hot from what I've heard)

[Beercules]

Lmao @ those fat brits barely able to tread water.

[LoadedWraps]

Sangin, Afghan


Helmand for a short period. Never iraq.(too ****ing hot from what I've heard)

I spent time in both, Iraq does get hot, but that cold in the winter in the ghan is ridiculous.

[Beercules]

I spent time in both, Iraq does get hot, but that cold in the winter in the ghan is ridiculous.

I hear you. When it's hot in the summer but you go up in altitude it messes your body up.


My time was up in February so I experienced the summer and a bit of winter.



Hey you watching the UFC tonight ?

[LoadedWraps]

I hear you. When it's hot in the summer but you go up in altitude it messes your body up.


My time was up in February so I experienced the summer and a bit of winter.



Hey you watching the UFC tonight ?

I watched most of the card actually, did you have any money on the fights?

[alza1988]

Lmao @ those fat brits barely able to tread water.

I did a few weeks training in lympstone commando mate and a couple yrs RMR just weekends .The swim test they do is hard mate i'm a strong swimmer but was still in the weak swimmer group man cause I couldn't to the breaststroke .They have to tread water with webbing and weapon ( battle swim test ) .

[LoadedWraps]

I did a few weeks training in lympstone commando mate and a couple yrs RMR just weekends .The swim test they do is hard mate i'm a strong swimmer but was still in the weak swimmer group man cause I couldn't to the breaststroke .They have to tread water with webbing and weapon ( battle swim test ) .

Fun stuff.

I also had to swim several meters with kit keeping weapon above water. Was labelled average (or whatever we used as a term between strong and weak) iirc. Gear weighs you down but we would still float oddly enough.

[Boxfan83]

The Battle of Fallujah was the biggest battle of the Iraq War yet many don’t know about the battle itself, let alone a significant day in this battle. It marked some of the fiercest fighting the U.S. military had seen in some thirty years.

The city had been a stronghold for insurgent forces since the start of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Different coalition forces tried to secure the city and bring order — to no avail; coalition troops backed out of the city and it quickly grew into a bastion for all enemy fighters in the area.

Marines were sent to start taking over the city in early 2004, but many political problems arose and the advance was stopped. They made quite a big push, but were quickly told to pull out. November then came, and the Marines were sent in again to liberate the city and eliminate the enemy from of every inch of it.

The 10th of November was three days into the second battle. By this time, the enemy inside began to mount a major defense – a complex, formidable one. I started the battle with an entire machine gun squad, until mortars rained down on a street where were pulling security. Once the smoke started to clear, only two of us were what remained of a seven-man machine gun squad.

Many Marines of 3rd battalion 1st Marines engaged in grueling house-to-house fighting. Our platoon crashed through a door of a house and engaged in one firefight after another. It seemed as if everyone was wounded from enemy small arms fire and indirect fire, like RPGs and mortars. Still, we all continued the fight, clearing houses of multiple enemy occupants. Some houses were even leveled to take out any enemy defenses and personnel who might have been hiding within. Why send in men when a single good ****alore can do the job?

I was Kuwait in 2003 for the initial invasion of Iraq. Marines swarmed through Iraq and tookover Baghdad easily, then once Marines started flying American flags it got political. Marines left then had to return in 2004.

I was also in Fallujah in 2004. It was complicated but Marines easily handled Fallujah. Marines were just not an occupying force and basically had to turn into after the initial battle. Then politics got heavily involved again after the enemy started shooting from Mosques.

Marines went from a fighting force with a kill and take names later to a kill and rebuild force. While completing Police type missions for the CIA.

It was sad to see the Iraqi army lose control of Fallujah but in no way did Marines lose. Failed a mission, maybe but the mission was near impossible.

[BangEM]

I was Kuwait in 2003 for the initial invasion of Iraq. Marines swarmed through Iraq and tookover Baghdad easily, then once Marines started flying American flags it got political. Marines left then had to return in 2004.

I was also in Fallujah in 2004. It was complicated but Marines easily handled Fallujah. Marines were just not an occupying force and basically had to turn into after the initial battle. Then politics got heavily involved again after the enemy started shooting from Mosques.

Marines went from a fighting force with a kill and take names later to a kill and rebuild force. While completing Police type missions for the CIA.

It was sad to see the Iraqi army lose control of Fallujah but in no way did Marines lose. Failed a mission, maybe but the mission was near impossible.

But everyone other sources said the Marines lost Fallujah 3-4 times and had to bomb the whole city to the ground to finally take it.

[LoadedWraps]

I was Kuwait in 2003 for the initial invasion of Iraq. Marines swarmed through Iraq and tookover Baghdad easily, then once Marines started flying American flags it got political. Marines left then had to return in 2004.

I was also in Fallujah in 2004. It was complicated but Marines easily handled Fallujah. Marines were just not an occupying force and basically had to turn into after the initial battle. Then politics got heavily involved again after the enemy started shooting from Mosques.

Marines went from a fighting force with a kill and take names later to a kill and rebuild force. While completing Police type missions for the CIA.

It was sad to see the Iraqi army lose control of Fallujah but in no way did Marines lose. Failed a mission, maybe but the mission was near impossible.

I first deployed to Iraq in 2005.