Sonny Liston versus Lennox Lewis who wins?

[Bronson66]

- - Well, he live with he momma who guided his career and told him to retire before he get beat up again...

Who got beaten up?

[JeBron Lamez]

- - Well, he live with he momma

You live with your momma but she won't let you have a key.

[JeBron Lamez]

Who got beaten up?

Half of Vitali's face as he tried in vain to win a boxing match.

[JeBron Lamez]

Yes, to avoid the rematch. Nash out - His Majesty

It would be churlish to deny it, but sometimes...

...the sweetest victory of all is to take your darts home after a single victorious set & assert for all time that (not for want of effort) a certain man never beat you

[billeau2]

Sometimes at the bottom of a barrel you can always find something worthwhile. We all must respect Nash, he gathered my respect long ago, and Queenie, well, we all know that is really Sally Field and she has earned her stripes too. Nash out - His Majesty

They would not even give me the decision against the stinging Queen B! Or was that the Queen B drinking a stinger?

[billeau2]

Sonny had one insurmountable obstacle in his time.

He was black.

Lewis had one insurmountable obstacle at the time.

He was not a yank.

Things are different now thank goodness, the savage racism and jingoism of the US boxing press has largely gone.

At their very best.

Pick em.

Brings up a great point. Liston was always very grateful and respectful to caucasians that were kind to him. His boxing got started when a Catholic Priest went to bat for him after watching him fight in prison. There were other examples of this. Lewis never to my recollection complained despite the media treatment. Both men were somewhat stoic.

[billeau2]

Who got beaten up?

Wasn't it Vitali? Ahh, maybe it was a conspiracy. After all when Lewis was knocked down.... Wait a minute Lewis never was knocked down... Or maybe Lewis was getting beat up so he stopped the fight? Oh wait, no... Ahhh! Lewis was losing badly, the last few rounds Vitalie was coming on, taking chances! Lewis was ready to go! D****! Actually Lewis was coming on and Vitalie looked ready to be seriously restructured into a Crumb Brothers cartoon "nurse."

I am sure Queenie has his reasons. One day we might actually be privy to one of them.

[Bronson66]

Wasn't it Vitali? Ahh, maybe it was a conspiracy. After all when Lewis was knocked down.... Wait a minute Lewis never was knocked down... Or maybe Lewis was getting beat up so he stopped the fight? Oh wait, no... Ahhh! Lewis was losing badly, the last few rounds Vitalie was coming on, taking chances! Lewis was ready to go! D****! Actually Lewis was coming on and Vitalie looked ready to be seriously restructured into a Crumb Brothers cartoon "nurse."

I am sure Queenie has his reasons. One day we might actually be privy to one of them.

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[Willie Pep 229]

Wasn't it Vitali? Ahh, maybe it was a conspiracy. After all when Lewis was knocked down.... Wait a minute Lewis never was knocked down... Or maybe Lewis was getting beat up so he stopped the fight? Oh wait, no... Ahhh! Lewis was losing badly, the last few rounds Vitalie was coming on, taking chances! Lewis was ready to go! D****! Actually Lewis was coming on and Vitalie looked ready to be seriously restructured into a Crumb Brothers cartoon "nurse."

I am sure Queenie has his reasons. One day we might actually be privy to one of them.

When I watched the fight I thought Lewis looked old. I was wondering how he would do in the last couple of rounds, but then they stopped it.

I guess Lewis felt the same way.

He retired at the perfect time. On a win, with lots of money, and still articulate.

Typical Fandom: when an athlete does the right thing for himself he gets attacked for it.

[Bronson66]

When I watched the fight I thought Lewis looked old. I was wondering how he would do in the last couple of rounds, but then they stopped it.

I guess Lewis felt the same way.

He retired at the perfect time. On a win, with lots of money, and still articulate.

Typical Fandom: when aathlete does the right thing for himself he gets attacked for it.

Thirty seven years old at his heaviest weight,he did the right thing.He lives in a palace in Jamaica,with a beautiful Wife and 3 kids he has his health, and plenty of money,and good luck to him!