is Golovkin a top all time 15 great at middleweight?

[QueensburyRules]

Byrd, she was temporarily relieved of duties....though the NSAC retroactively said she was just taking time off, and allowed her to comeback.

- -She didn't materially affect the draw result.

Suspended for her ridiculous wide Canelo score and should've been retired with Hubby Robert as long past the inept stages of their careers.

They're not of course because they make useful idiots in the sham of officiating.

[DreamFighter]

he has killed at least 15 bums for defences for sure.

[joseph5620]

Golovkin's defenses of the WBA "regular" title shouldn't count towards any record.

Similar to how Canelo couldn't be considered a world champion at 168 for winning Rocky Fielding's "regular" title. It wasn't until this past weekend that Alvarez became a legit 4 division champion.

Boxing historians should, and will, look at that.

It sure shouldn't. Especially when you compare him to undisputed champions.


Off the top of my head I can't even think of a single future Hall of Fame fighter that Golovkin has beaten.

[DeeMoney]

- -She didn't materially affect the draw result.

Suspended for her ridiculous wide Canelo score and should've been retired with Hubby Robert as long past the inept stages of their careers.

They're not of course because they make useful idiots in the sham of officiating.

Of course she did, se had the only card for Canelo. Had she had a card that fell in line with the vast majority of society then GGG wins.

I do agree that she and her husband should move into retirement, that poor guy just seems to always be making some sort of mistake.

[The Old LefHook]

N0, no. As soon as one makes longevity and #of defenses criteria for ATGness, a fool like Hokins, who could not beat anyone on my list, wiggles into the conversation. Who beats whom, that is at the heart of the question, not how many title defenses did so and so make?

[QueensburyRules]

It sure shouldn't. Especially when you compare him to undisputed champions.


Off the top of my head I can't even think of a single future Hall of Fame fighter that Golovkin has beaten.

- -That's because GGG still current...Duh!

[QueensburyRules]

Of course she did, se had the only card for Canelo. Had she had a card that fell in line with the vast majority of society then GGG wins.

I do agree that she and her husband should move into retirement, that poor guy just seems to always be making some sort of mistake.

- -115-113 for Canelo = same result and well within the bounds of like minded scoring.

U don't seem to understand the history of scoring, hence U confusion.

[DeeMoney]

- -115-113 for Canelo = same result and well within the bounds of like minded scoring.

U don't seem to understand the history of scoring, hence U confusion.

I completely understand the point you are trying to make. My point is simply icing on the cake to further exemplify that he (in the eyes of many) won the fight and should've probably been given the decision.

It utilizes the absurdity of the situation via how bad the outlier was.

[joseph5620]

- -That's because GGG still current...Duh!

He's also nearing the end of his career. He doesn't have a lot of time to get that done.

[QueensburyRules]

I completely understand the point you are trying to make. My point is simply icing on the cake to further exemplify that he (in the eyes of many) won the fight and should've probably been given the decision.

It utilizes the absurdity of the situation via how bad the outlier was.

- -This outlier was planted specifically for controversy as her history shows.

A routine bad decision that boxing eats up in their shell game.

That U can't see how inane blaming her for having the only Canelo scorecard when another judge had the only draw card and the other one had the only Golvkin card speaks volumes to U poor cognitive function.