Pac loses every ATG Fantasy match because...

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

You seemingly cant back up your own points, instead telling me to leave the thread...lol why dont you just put me back on ignore? Weak.

I just said MORE fans then just Floyd fans commented on this topic. Your thoughts.

[Boxin']

Hes favoured against anyone he fights now for a reason. And for those very reasons he would be favoured against those ATGS as well.

Is he favored against Floyd? no

Is he favored against Paul Williams? no

[bojangles1987]

Hes not skilled enough or good enough to beat most of them. He also doesnt have the right style in most of these fights.

Who does he beat?

Pryor? No.

Leonard? No.

Duran? No

Hearns? No.

Arguello? No.

Tito? No.

Pep? No.

Sanchez? No.

Benitez? No.

Whitaker? Hell No.

Gomez? No.

Nelson? No.

Saddler? No.

I can go on and on. So stop whining as if its some kind of B-Scene conspiracy against him. Hes not skilled enough or good enough to beat these guys. So stopping hyping him as this great mythical warrior. Pac is a ATG, no doubt. But stop with the Top 20 stuff.

Im tried of all his fans complaining that he never gets favored over the ATG's. There is a reason for that dont ya think? It has nothing to do with "hating" him.

But Floyd beats them all? The same way Floyd is skilled defensively, Pac is skilled offensively.

Pryor? Quite possible. It would be a war that could go either way, I'd personally go with Pac.

Arguello? At 135 or 140 yes, the same way Pryor did.

Leonard? No, but he would not get completely wiped off the map. His speed and offensive pressure would give him a decent chance and make it a fight.

Duran? Probably not, but it would be a great, great fight, not like Pac has no chance.

Hearns and Tito aren't fair, they are just massive fighters compared to Pac.

So many of you discount Pacquiao having any chance in these fights but say Floyd wins them, based on what? I can't believe I'm saying this, but Pacquiao's skills are seriously underrated to some of you.

[HandSpeed303]

You MAY have a point or two about skills. But boxing is being competed in the ring and while boxing is beyond just skills what you overlooked is that he's got heart, tenacity and then some.

That could also override skills and that could very well be a "skill" also.

Many so called SKILLED BOXERS can be beaten by boxers who are "lesser" than they are because of their lack of stamina, heart and then some. And thus that's the beauty of boxing. It's a good thing.

Just like in life, the smartest aren't always the successful ones but those also who has the big heart (determination), hard work, passion and then some.

Skills AND the heart is an awesome combination but to see Pacquiao and his unprecendented records. His opponents....I see why many people would "hate" him or try to negate his records.

Boxing can be as subjective just as in life...it isn't just the strongest, quickest and most skillful that rules the sport. And thanks GOD that it isn't just that way.

For Pacquiao also have SKILLS, heart, determination...and then some. It's better to give one proper dues just like those legends or greats you just mentioned on your list.

In a game of life, one can always be beaten. But it is the heart that fuels actions and life. An inspired life is beyond mere skills. For techniques and skills can be taught, learned and disseminated.

But no one can teach the ways of the heart.

Good post brotha!

[HandSpeed303]

Hes not skilled enough or good enough to beat most of them. He also doesnt have the right style in most of these fights.

Who does he beat?

Pryor? No.

Leonard? No.

Duran? No

Hearns? No.

Arguello? No.

Tito? No.

Pep? No.

Sanchez? No.

Benitez? No.

Whitaker? Hell No.

Gomez? No.

Nelson? No.

Saddler? No.

I can go on and on. So stop whining as if its some kind of B-Scene conspiracy against him. Hes not skilled enough or good enough to beat these guys. So stopping hyping him as this great mythical warrior. Pac is a ATG, no doubt. But stop with the Top 20 stuff.

Im tried of all his fans complaining that he never gets favored over the ATG's. There is a reason for that dont ya think? It has nothing to do with "hating" him.

Since I entered this topic, I might as well adrees the opening post...

First off, I don't believe in fantasy fights. I think they are a huge waste of time, and debtae.

No one ever wins, and NO ONE IS EVER RIGHT!!! That is the most important part!...

You say you hear alot of crying, so you make a topic to ease the pain (I guess), or explain the reason YOU wouldn't pick Manny over any of these ATG's.

The problem with that is, these are not facts...It is not a fact that he would lose to these fighters. It is just your opinion. Nothing more.

If someone feels he can beat them all, doesn't matter...It is just their opinion.

Woulda/Coulda topics never get much attention from me. They mean nothing, and deal with no facts.


On A Side Note: I don't agree with you. I have a feeling many won't. Of cousre though, you will only quote the ones that do agree with you...

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Because Mayweather is so great that no current fighters can match him

Yes like welterweight versions of Hatton and Marquez....

[Gutz]

Since I entered this topic, I might as well adrees the opening post...

First off, I don't believe in fantasy fights. I think they are a huge waste of time, and debtae.

No one ever wins, and NO ONE IS EVER RIGHT!!! That is the most important part!...

You say you hear alot of crying, so you make a topic to ease the pain (I guess), or explain the reason YOU wouldn't pick Manny over any of these ATG's.

The problem with that is, these are not facts...It is not a fact that he would lose to these fighters. It is just your opinion. Nothing more.

If someone feels he can beat them all, doesn't matter...It is just there opinion.

Woulda/Coulda topics never get much attention from me. They mean nothing, and deal with no facts.


On A Side Note: I don't agree with you. I have a feeling many won't. Of cousre though, you will only quote the ones that do agree with you...

Best post of this thread...

[paulsinghnl]

But Floyd beats them all? The same way Floyd is skilled defensively, Pac is skilled offensively.

Pryor? Quite possible. It would be a war that could go either way, I'd personally go with Pac.

Arguello? At 135 or 140 yes, the same way Pryor did.

Leonard? No, but he would not get completely wiped off the map. His speed and offensive pressure would give him a decent chance and make it a fight.

Duran? Probably not, but it would be a great, great fight, not like Pac has no chance.

Hearns and Tito aren't fair, they are just massive fighters compared to Pac.

So many of you discount Pacquiao having any chance in these fights but say Floyd wins them, based on what? I can't believe I'm saying this, but Pacquiao's skills are seriously underrated to some of you.

totally agree! a ray of light through the bullcrap.

[kadyo's]

Thgis thread is a waste of energy. Only burner I think created pacquiao thread for today and they are all about fantasies where pac loses badly. So what's new?

Hey burner, your boy floyd is the one fighting in the near future so please reserve you energy for pac bashing later.

[pasawayako]

Because that's the only way pac could be defeated now through fantasy match-up. There's no one from 147 and below in reality could defeat pac.