Pac loses every ATG Fantasy match because...

[UglyButRich]

hahaha really surprise me why a troll thread like this makes 8 pages of response..

[Shattered Jaw]

I canot believe people are saying Pac is not that skilful.

I have absolutely no regard such disgraceful 'opinions'.

How many people do you have to devastate before you get any credit anymore? Jeez.

['Sugar' Freddi]

that's all up for debate because it's an opinion. The best skilled fighter doesn't always win the fight, that's why they actually fight in the 1st place.

End of Thread!

Not saying this because I'm a Pac fan, but we've seen thousands of time whens a brawler or someone like Pacquiao has dominated a skilled fighter. I'm not saying he'll beat 'em all, but you can't make those assumptions because he's not skilled enough. He must have some skills since he's proved wrong a lot of times.

Some people in here need to stop being so damn biased.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Osiris you funny man. I can "hear" exactly how you said all that stuff.

[Khalid X]

its no secret Pac is not a skilled fighter..styles make fights and he has had the fortune of being matched up with fighters at a certain time to make himself look better than what he really is..truth is if he faced a slick fighter he would be outclassed in a second..and it just so happens that alot of ATGs are slick fighters..and thats why he loses to them..if ever Floyd/Pac meet up..and when Floyd makes Pac look like a clown in the ring...just imagine what those ATG fighters would do..(the same ATG fighters who say would beat Floyd) so once Floyd beats Pac..there will be no argument here anymore!

He won his first two world titles/lineal championships against two slick fighters. What the hell are you talking about and what do you mean he will be outclassed? Two wins and two titles prove otherwise....

[prometheuslord]

hahaha really surprise me why a troll thread like this makes 8 pages of response..

cause we like feeding the trolls as much as they like eating their own crow. haha. it's the truth

[dde91]

LOL at Pacquiao not being skilled. That has to be the most ******est thing i heard today. His skills are his Handspeed, footwork, heart, determination, chin, etc. Those are his skills



NONE OF THOSE BOXERS *CEPT MAYBE LEONARD* CAN DO THIS. BECAUSE THIS IS PACQUIAO'S SKILLSET. EVERYBODY HAS DIFFERENT SKILLS, BUT TO SAY HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY IS ******.
IF HE DIDN'T HAVE SKILLS HE WOULDN'T BE NUMBER 1 P4P RIGHT NOW. YOU HAVE TO HAVE SKILLS TO BEAT
MORALES
BARRERA
MARQUEZ
HATTON
COTTO
CLOTTEY
DE LA HOYA

SO BE HATERS ALL YOU WANT. IM NOT SAYING HE'LL BEAT ALL THOSE GUYS BUT IM SURE HE WOULDN'T LOSE TO THEM ALL. I MEAN DURAN WAS SMALLER THEN LEONARD AND HE BEAT HIM THE FIRST TIME. ARGUELLO ABOVE 135 WOULD LOSE TO PACQUIAO IMO. PRYOR WOULD BE A BRUTAL FIGHT THAT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE TO SEE.
HEARNS COULD BE DROPPED BUT HAS A BOMB RIGHT HAND THAT COULD SLEEP PACQUIAO. TITO GOT OUTBOXED BY DE LA HOYA. ETC.
SO ANYBODY COULD GET BEAT. JUST LIKE PACQUIAO COULD GET BEAT BY ANY OF THEM.

[rocky_balboa23]

You MAY have a point or two about skills. But boxing is being competed in the ring and while boxing is beyond just skills what you overlooked is that he's got heart, tenacity and then some.

That could also override skills and that could very well be a "skill" also.

Many so called SKILLED BOXERS can be beaten by boxers who are "lesser" than they are because of their lack of stamina, heart and then some. And thus that's the beauty of boxing. It's a good thing.

Just like in life, the smartest aren't always the successful ones but those also who has the big heart (determination), hard work, passion and then some.

Skills AND the heart is an awesome combination but to see Pacquiao and his unprecendented records. His opponents....I see why many people would "hate" him or try to negate his records.

Boxing can be as subjective just as in life...it isn't just the strongest, quickest and most skillful that rules the sport. And thanks GOD that it isn't just that way.

For Pacquiao also have SKILLS, heart, determination...and then some. It's better to give one proper dues just like those legends or greats you just mentioned on your list.

In a game of life, one can always be beaten. But it is the heart that fuels actions and life. An inspired life is beyond mere skills. For techniques and skills can be taught, learned and disseminated.

But no one can teach the ways of the heart.

nice input..im inspired by ur words. green K. it's very rare to see this kind of post here in NSB.

[Khalid X]

Osiris you funny man. I can "hear" exactly how you said all that stuff.

I'm in a very chill mood right now. I actually thought I came off as a **** (though I'm trying not to)....but I digress.

[Ravishing]

Also, if you asked people 3 years ago that Pac would have a W on his resume from guys like Cotto, Oscar, Clottey (2 by KO nonetheless), they'd tell you you're crazy.

But just like anyone who becomes a big name, you're gonna have haters...it comes with the territory.

Ironic enough though, the Mayweather fans on here seem to forget that they also defended Floyd for years with his questionable choices of opponents, his aura, etc, yet they're doing the exact same thing to Pacquiao. Why? Because Pacquiao is a star alongside Floyd.

That's why I prefer just being an objective fan. I got my favorites, but when you start worshiping these fighters you don't look at the big picture unless it favors your fighter. It's proven everyday on here lol.