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    #81
    Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
    It doesn't matter if you "don't really" recognize him lineal or not because it's factual that he IS the lineal champ at 175.
    It's not any more factual than saying Ward is the 2x lineal champ. He beat Dawson, and he beat Edwin, who beat Grachev, who beat Erdei who was the lineal champ. I believe someone even made a thread about it.

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      #82
      Originally posted by New England View Post
      i don't need to fight kovalev!

      i fought shumenov! a russian is a russian!

      ...............

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        #83
        Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
        it sucks for kovalev who is stuck on HBO without no one to fight.
        It does suck, but I bet Showtime wouldn't sign Kovalev in order to set up a fight with either Stevenson or BHop even if they could. They stand to make much more money milking Stevenson & BHop than risking Kovalev destroying them both.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Foreign Soil View Post
          It's not any more factual than saying Ward is the 2x lineal champ. He beat Dawson, and he beat Edwin, who beat Grachev, who beat Erdei who was the lineal champ. I believe someone even made a thread about it.
          Erdei moved up to crusierweight, thus vacating the lineal throne at light-heavyweight. Thereafter, the lineal throne can only be contested between the number 1 and 2 fighters in the division. These 2 were Dawson and Hopkins.

          Stevenson is lineal champion.

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            #85
            Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
            It does suck, but I bet Showtime wouldn't sign Kovalev in order to set up a fight with either Stevenson or BHop even if they could. They stand to make much more money milking Stevenson & BHop than risking Kovalev destroying them both.
            Well... this is another revelation you just had!

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              #86
              Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
              it sucks for kovalev who is stuck on HBO without no one to fight.
              Kovalev will build his own legacy. Maybe some persons like Ward will move up. Yet if noone wants to fight him at LHW, he can move to CW. Yep, he doesn't want it, but still he can make it.

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                #87
                Originally posted by jas View Post
                Erdei moved up to crusierweight, thus vacating the lineal throne at light-heavyweight. Thereafter, the lineal throne can only be contested between the number 1 and 2 fighters in the division. These 2 were Dawson and Hopkins.

                Stevenson is lineal champion.
                ...which is accurate...

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post
                  It does suck, but I bet Showtime wouldn't sign Kovalev in order to set up a fight with either Stevenson or BHop even if they could. They stand to make much more money milking Stevenson & BHop than risking Kovalev destroying them both.
                  You would have a point except Kathy Duva said the most important thing was getting KOvalev a long term deal with HBO. Obviously if he went to showtime they would act just like HBO did and try to maximize dollars.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by jas View Post
                    Erdei moved up to crusierweight, thus vacating the lineal throne at light-heavyweight. Thereafter, the lineal throne can only be contested between the number 1 and 2 fighters in the division. These 2 were Dawson and Hopkins.

                    Stevenson is lineal champion.
                    So if Erdei lost the "lineal" title for moving up in weight and still winning, then why doesn't Dawson lose the "lineal" title for moving down in weight and getting decimated?

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                      #90
                      BHop is 1 at LHW
                      Stevenson 2
                      Pascal 3
                      Kov 4

                      3-4 can be changed but BHop is challenging 2 so who cares about 4.

                      People cry about best v best well BHop v Stevenson is best v best

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