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    #31
    I remember watching it with my girlfriend and soon as the bell went, i said Haye looks done, like he was petrified to put any weight on the leg that was damaged. His stance looked very weird.

    Surely he must’ve known in sparring too? - can’t blame him for taking the rematch though, he earned millions just for the rematch alone. Nice retirement fight if you can get it. Haye isn’t a ****** man and he’s someone who knows a lot about strength and conditioning and about the body. There’s no way didn’t know he was already finished. It’s hard to walk away from that last fight when it’s great money.

    Same as Groves knew he was done before that WBSS final, he’s basically admitted he was retiring either way, his shoulder was gone, but who wouldn’t earn millions for their family for one last fight?. They made good money anyway, but not enough to just leave a few million on the table.
    Last edited by deathofaclown; 01-05-2020, 01:12 PM.

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      #32
      Originally posted by GlassJoey View Post
      He definitely won the round that Bellew did nothing in (think just round 1). To be fair I think he knew he was in trouble before the first fight. He wanted to fight a few bums to earn a title shot swan-song but Bellew called him out and Hearn offered him too much money to say no
      I wouldn't argue with any of that. He had two absolute joke comeback fights, thought about old Briggs but then thought better of it. I knew then he was only about an earner. He wasn't really training, he was living it up in Miami,that stuff in the trailers wasnt a joke, he really thought he would do Bellew with the first punch. Then he was gonna run for against AJ and either lose on points or retire injured. I cant fault him for marketing, and he makes a good pundit but he really was a con man as a heavyweight.

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        #33
        I thought haye would win both times tbh.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Dr Rassclart View Post
          You’re no Bert Sugar are you? Even a casual would have a passing knowledge of Haye as a unified cruiser weight champion ffs.
          Beleive me I follow boxing more than any other sport.. actually is the only sport I truly follow... and haye was nothing in the USA or at least where I'm from. Never saw him win anything spectacularly and to be honest did not care to. Everytime I watched him fight someone relevant he lost... that's my opinion and you do not have to agree to it!!!

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            #35
            Very skilled fighter and a really good cruiserweight champion......but the moment he started promoting himself is the moment he ****ed his career up.....took control but lost control and focus

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              #36
              Originally posted by MexicanStyle#1 View Post
              Beleive me I follow boxing more than any other sport.. actually is the only sport I truly follow... and haye was nothing in the USA or at least where I'm from. Never saw him win anything spectacularly and to be honest did not care to. Everytime I watched him fight someone relevant he lost... that's my opinion and you do not have to agree to it!!!




              That's not an opinion it's just false information. You didn't even know he was a cruiserweight.

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                #37
                Haye was well and truly past it by the time he fought Bellew. Just a shell of him former self in the ring.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Jkp View Post
                  Haye was well and truly past it by the time he fought Bellew. Just a shell of him former self in the ring.
                  True, but if he hadn't got that Achilles injury would be have been finished so suddenly?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
                    I knew it was over, soon as I saw sparring footage.

                    David Haye should of retired after the first Bellew fight, that was the perfect time to retire. As he had gained massive amounts of admiration from the boxing world, for his courage's effort.

                    During the entire build of the second fight, he was searching for himself 'Just as a man, and he has not been the same since in my opinion' Deep down he still detests the fact that Tony Bellew has beaten him.

                    Haye is far to matey matey these days, and it is because of the effects of his loss to Tony Bellew.

                    'David Haye was the last real fighter I had a rapport with, I was there from the start and until the end' Enjoyed supporting him.
                    When the Achilles ruptures like it did, it's apparently a massive injury to come back. I read an interview with him where it said he actually walked differently after the operation, let alone moved differently in the ring.
                    He didn't look good before it went in the first fight, but that was the final nail.
                    John Barnes did the same thing in 1992 and he had to totally change his game for the rest of his career.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by apollocreed View Post
                      When the Achilles ruptures like it did, it's apparently a massive injury to come back. I read an interview with him where it said he actually walked differently after the operation, let alone moved differently in the ring.
                      He didn't look good before it went in the first fight, but that was the final nail.
                      John Barnes did the same thing in 1992 and he had to totally change his game for the rest of his career.
                      One thing David Haye always had was very strong base 'I picked up on how he changed his footwear during his last fight? And chose to wear a typical runners trainer. Runners trainers yes they may support your legs, but over time 'they are not optimal for muscle development and ligament/tendon strength 'David Haye would of known this, but he was probably just trying to survive a training camp etc

                      Haye's punch mechanics was way off in his last two fights, but from a physical perspective he looked quite strong during the first Bellew fight 'But was probably carrying a slight injury'

                      Haye went out swinging anyway, awesome the way he just waved Bellew onto him in those final moments of his career 'He behaved exactly the same up against Carl Thompson' game fighter.

                      Note: David Haye probably came back too quickly from that injury, Eddie Hearn & MatchRoom where pushing for the fight to be made quickly 'They knew exactly what they where doing' I thought it was bizarre the way they did not want to acknowledge Haye's injuries also 'It took a herculean effort for Haye to even be inside of the ring while his body was damaged to that extent'.
                      Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 01-05-2020, 07:09 PM.

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