The skill of Deontay Wilder

[Willow The Wisp]

Yes. Americans have a poor grasp of the outside world which leads them to make strange statements such as yours.

Most people's view of the US outside its borders range among "I hope they don't start a war/bomb us" to "why can't they stop shooting each other?"

Economic powerhouse but a cultural backwater.

I've done quite a bit of travel myself, and enough to appreciate the modest value in what you say.
I have great respect for all the world's places, peoples and cultures.
This said; the International Boxing Hall of Fame does, in fact, reside in Canastota, NY, USA.
How this warrants a geopolitical pontification, I can't imagine; but I'm fairly disinterested in that kind of discussion.

I do feel the need to point out that all the great fighters swarm to the Hall every year, in a powerful indication that the IBHOF matters to Boxing very much. Probably, they come from your very important country too. Have you come?
I think that you should.

I promise that your "experience in boxing" would evolve.

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[MulaKO]

That is where it becomes so important for people to look at the fights... Not the judges decisions, not other sources, but to watch the actual events. Otherwise it is hard to understand things like, the general mean for quality of fighters, etc. With Wilder one really has to see how devistating a puncher he is to appreciate his ability.

And that is all he had and that went out the window faster than he could say bomb squad

Lmfao

[daggum]

Wilder's power ruined Both Ortiz and Fury.
Fury and Ortiz Ruined Wilder, in 5 classic wars.
Nothing that any of them did following those wars is reflective of who they were during their respective primes.

The current era is 2015 - 2025

1. Oleksandr Usyk, Ukraine 23-0-0 (14)
2. Tyson Fury, England 34-2-1 (24)
3. Deontay Wilder, USA 43-4-1 (42)
4. Daniel Dubois, England 22-2-0 (21)
5. Anthony Joshua, England 28-4-0 (24)
6. Joseph Parker, New Zealand 36-3-0 (24)
7. Zhilei Zhang, China 27-3-1 (22)
8. Agit Kabayel, Turkey 26-0-0 (18)
9. Andy Ruiz Jr., USA 35-2-1 (22)
10.Luis Ortiz, Cuba 34-3-0 (29)
11.Dillian Whyte, England 31-3-0 (21)
12.Martin Bakole, Congo 21-2-1. (16)
13.Wladimir Klitschko, Ukraine 64-5-0 (53)
14.Joe Joyce, England 16-4-0 (15)
15.Jarrell Miller, USA 26-1-2 (22)

What a shame wilder was ruined right at the exact moment he started fighting top competition. It's OK he banked all those wins against bums first so he can always fall back on them when judging his amazing resume.

[daggum]

That is where it becomes so important for people to look at the fights... Not the judges decisions, not other sources, but to watch the actual events. Otherwise it is hard to understand things like, the general mean for quality of fighters, etc. With Wilder one really has to see how devistating a puncher he is to appreciate his ability.

Look at how wikder constantly fell over windmilling punches agaisnt complete bums. If you don't actually watch the fights wlyou wouldnt see that skill

[billeau2]

And that is all he had and that went out the window faster than he could say bomb squad

Lmfao

Not all great fighters last long. Some fighters are great because they last long... and everything in between. Wilder was able to win an olympic metal and fight at the top of the food chain because of his punch. I personally cannot think of another heavyweight who got as far just on a punch. Even fighters known as bruisers, like Luis Firpo were had attributes other than a punch, and did not have the power of a real puncher.

Even closet punchers, guys like Morrison and Weaver had many other tricks... And obvious punchers like Shavers and Foreman could box quite well especially considering the present division.

It is true this is a weak division, but even so, Wilder managed to achieve a championship fight he almost won. he did this against a formidable boxer to boot. Thats gotta count for somethin!

[billeau2]

Look at how wikder constantly fell over windmilling punches agaisnt complete bums. If you don't actually watch the fights wlyou wouldnt see that skill

And Pray tell, what do you know about proper punching form? Did you ever read Dempsey's book on punching? It is as relevant today as when it was written, a highly unusual distinction considering how much boxing has apparently "evolved." Dempsey makes the point that balance is somewhat overrated as an attribute of hitting things really hard. Maybe Wilder's technique had faults... But being off balance never seemed to get him counter punched... Show me a fight where it did please... Nobody countered his shots because they were afraid.

[MulaKO]

Not all great fighters last long. Some fighters are great because they last long... and everything in between. Wilder was able to win an olympic metal and fight at the top of the food chain because of his punch. I personally cannot think of another heavyweight who got as far just on a punch. Even fighters known as bruisers, like Luis Firpo were had attributes other than a punch, and did not have the power of a real puncher.

Even closet punchers, guys like Morrison and Weaver had many other tricks... And obvious punchers like Shavers and Foreman could box quite well especially considering the present division.

It is true this is a weak division, but even so, Wilder managed to achieve a championship fight he almost won. he did this against a formidable boxer to boot. Thats gotta count for somethin!

A bad crop is how I would put it

[billeau2]

A bad crop is how I would put it

Well I cannot argue that point .

[billeau2]

What a shame wilder was ruined right at the exact moment he started fighting top competition. It's OK he banked all those wins against bums first so he can always fall back on them when judging his amazing resume.

False. He beat Ortiz and was ruined fighting Fury, after giving such an effort that he almost won. But to a Joshua stan like yourself it can not be acknowledged because it makes Joshua look out of the loop having fought neither Fury or Wilder and not being as compatative with Usyk as Fury! Nice try

[SouthpawRight]

False. He beat Ortiz and was ruined fighting Fury, after giving such an effort that he almost won. But to a Joshua stan like yourself it can not be acknowledged because it makes Joshua look out of the loop having fought neither Fury or Wilder and not being as compatative with Usyk as Fury! Nice try

that unnecessary 3rd fight shaved years off of each's career

Deontay effectively conspiracy theory whined his way into the trilogy

unneeded bout Fury outboxed Deontay the first time and destructed him the second time