The skill of Deontay Wilder

[Willow The Wisp]

His business manager was excellent as he capitalized on the USA market which was at an all time low tide and was fed very weak competition. When he finally fought top international competition he was exposed.

His punch looked great as he fought no -hoopers and non tough journeymen. He has / hand good hand speed . The right " hook " was his best punch.


He was a really weak jaw, jawed pipe legged fighter who was say the 3rd or 4th best in the world at his peak. He might have been in fixed fights.

If the hall of fame has ANY standards, he never gets in.

The hall of fame IS the standard, and of course he gets in.
His level of competition is more or less on par with the other top nanes of his era. The pronouncements that there is some massive gap is myth.

People who know very little about a given subject hold very strong opinions on those subjects, nevertheless.

[Dr Z]

The hall of fame IS the standard, and of course he gets in.
His level of competition is more or less on par with the other top nanes of his era. The pronouncements that there is some massive gap is myth.

People who know very little about a given subject hold very strong opinions on those subjects, nevertheless.

Wilder has no business in the HOF

[MalevolentBite]

I think Deontay was a joke but jokes can be funny and true at the same time and that was Deontay. He looked so funny in the ring until that Right hand landed and the joke was no longer funny.

Deontay's problem wasn't really his skills it was his personality and him drinking his own kool-aid that was his problem. He thought he can solve every problem with his right hand eraser. He wouldnt listen to any "legit decent " trainer or pro fighter that wasn't drinking his kool-aid. Everyone at Golden Boy, PBC and the WBC kept Deontay ego large and dumb to the point he couldn't be fix. Yes he had wasted potential but I don't consider him a bum or a bust. He achieved more then most boxers. His ego kept him form fighting for undisputed against AJ and I think he could had won that fight.

Just think about it. We could be living in a time line were Deontay was undisputed champion.

One of the most feared punchers in his prime Til Dis Day!

[MalevolentBite]

Wilder has no business in the HOF

You can make the same case for Wilder as you could Gatti and Vinny.

Why is Gatti in but Tarver would KO Roy Jones not in the hall of fame ? You can't say drugs because there's other drug cheats in the hall of fame right now.

[Dr Z]

I think Deontay was a joke but jokes can be funny and true at the same time and that was Deontay. He looked so funny in the ring until that Right hand landed and the joke was no longer funny.

Deontay's problem wasn't really his skills it was his personality and him drinking his own kool-aid that was his problem. He thought he can solve every problem with his right hand eraser. He wouldnt listen to any "legit decent " trainer or pro fighter that wasn't drinking his kool-aid. Everyone at Golden Boy, PBC and the WBC kept Deontay ego large and dumb to the point he couldn't be fix. Yes he had wasted potential but I don't consider him a bum or a bust. He achieved more then most boxers. His ego kept him form fighting for undisputed against AJ and I think he could had won that fight.

Just think about it. We could be living in a time line were Deontay was undisputed champion.

One of the most feared punchers in his prime Til Dis Day!

Would not listen to his trainer or could not do it? I say he never set up a KO with his jab, never learned defense, and fogut many C and B fighters on the decline! With his grade A power that was enough for him to win. Power is tied to the quality of opposition! Who did he KO in the top 15 when he fought them? Nobody, that's who!

Without Max Kellerman in the situation, he could hit hard, but not that hard.

[MulaKO]

Fugh Wilder

[billeau2]

Nah, resume does not matter when the question is how much power.



How fast Usain ran is not answered by the racers he beat. Dumbass

The final score of whatever soccer's super bowl is, is not answered by who they beat is it dumbass?

Who has the most 3 pointers in basketball is not answered by who they scored on is it dumbass?



But the dumbass boxing fan believes they can answer physics with resume

See? This? A true gem! Could not have said it better if I had a million years.

[billeau2]

Wilder has no business in the HOF

And Gatti does?

[billeau2]

Fugh Wilder

I don't know... Charlie made a call and Deontay showed up.

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Wilder was like Mike Tyson in that most of his opponents were beaten before they stepped into the ring due to fear. The difference being that prime Mike was highly skilled with great head movement and great feet, lightning fast and ko power in both hands. Guys were terrified of him for good reason.

Wilder was a human highlight reel against cans and as he kept fighting those guys and looking unstoppable, his right hand became a real threat and guys like Ortiz and Brezeale and middle tier guys fought him very sheepishly.

Fury outboxed him and then beat the snot out of him and it broke the spell. Wilder was always terrible and he was also fun to watch because you knew he could land the world ender at any time. The punch was so hard because it was thrown from the back of his heels and he snapped it. Anyone can learn to do it and it will badly hurt someone. Unfortunately it is very easy to telegraph and guys like Fury, Parker and Zhang easily saw it coming. ****ty cans were there for the paycheck.