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    #21
    Originally posted by l1ght View Post
    Yeah its close and the people who say Froch isn't dangerous are delusional. I expect Groves to look superior again early on but if he doesn't wobble Carl hes gonna get his head caved in like Bute once he starts slowing down like he did in the last fight. Carl is not past it and proved in the last fight he still has the ability to increase his pace as it goes on. Cant wait for this rematch.
    I wouldn't say Froch is past it either,but his boxing intelligence is similar to his iq,low.George was hit with some of Carl's finest shots,kept going and answered everything,Frich was far more hurt in the first than George was at the stoppage,that's a laughable statement.

    Andrade literally knocked Bute out,he was out on his feet.obviously Carl is a far superior talent to Librado Andrade,but to suggest just because Carl slaughtered Bute he will steam roll through Groves is again laughable.Groves stood up all the way through the contest,Carl caught in as he was trying to clinch,George bobbed straight into it.in short he was denied a chance to survive,counter and recuperate,these are questions that could and may have been answered.we won't ever know,fact is Groves was hurt badly versus DeGale and he came through.he had the strength and character to continue,you're trying to tell me Groves was done ? He proved versus DeGale he has a strong resolve,a stronger resolve than his opponent.what was there to suggest otherwise in those previous 8 rounds he couldn't or wouldn't have gone on,should he have clinched or took a count ?

    Groves had 12 round conditioning that was obvious.hes competed and remained competitive throughout 12 before,present me with anything substantiating that would suggest otherwise,bar Froch's performances in his previous 12 rounders.because at the end of the day they don't tell you anything about George ! Only about Carl Froch ! Your reasoning and debate is flawed.

    I believe George wil l be standing at the end of the rematch,victorious on points.the longer this fitght goes on the further Carl will be behind on the cards.Ive seen nothing from Froch in his fight against Kessler 2 to suggest he finishes stronger than his opponent,unless you count the 12th where the referee allowed the fight to continue even though Carl hit Mikkel wit a low blow and still couldn't finish the fight !

    George is fresher,hungrier and fitter than both Mikkel and Carl.he is on the same class as them now too,and he will prove he has surpassed Carl when he triumphs in London is coming May.

    George has nothing to fear bar his world class power,should the officiating be unquestionably fair.whih is a tall ask regarding a Hearn card.

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      #22
      Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
      That's a strange incoherent sentence. Carl only won because he was gifted a stoppage.

      Regardless, I don't really think Fitzpatrick believes what he's saying. Carl Froch is a cool cat and he's not going to implode at all - he'll give it his best.

      But there's something about Groves that gets under Carl's skin, it's uncanny.
      You don't believe that, do you?

      Come on, now.

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        #23
        Originally posted by yoz View Post
        You don't believe that, do you?

        Come on, now.
        Well that's what happened. He was gifted a stoppage which is why he won.

        Had he won otherwise? Perhaps - But I can't predict such things. All I know is that he was gifted the stoppage.

        What he says would be the same as me saying "Yes, Lewis battered Holyfield and was robbed. But let's not forget that Holyfield got a draw". It doesn't make any sense.

        In any fight (most of course), there's a winner and a loser - there's not much middle ground. So if one fighter is getting battered from rounds 1-9 and the other fighter gets a cheap stoppage, who really won?

        On the cards, it'll say Froch won. But in a fighting sense...

        Groves came out on top out of the two I think that's pretty clear.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Scott.Weiland. View Post
          I wouldn't say Froch is past it either,but his boxing intelligence is similar to his iq,low.George was hit with some of Carl's finest shots,kept going and answered everything,Frich was far more hurt in the first than George was at the stoppage,that's a laughable statement.

          Andrade literally knocked Bute out,he was out on his feet.obviously Carl is a far superior talent to Librado Andrade,but to suggest just because Carl slaughtered Bute he will steam roll through Groves is again laughable.Groves stood up all the way through the contest,Carl caught in as he was trying to clinch,George bobbed straight into it.in short he was denied a chance to survive,counter and recuperate,these are questions that could and may have been answered.we won't ever know,fact is Groves was hurt badly versus DeGale and he came through.he had the strength and character to continue,you're trying to tell me Groves was done ? He proved versus DeGale he has a strong resolve,a stronger resolve than his opponent.what was there to suggest otherwise in those previous 8 rounds he couldn't or wouldn't have gone on,should he have clinched or took a count ?

          Groves had 12 round conditioning that was obvious.hes competed and remained competitive throughout 12 before,present me with anything substantiating that would suggest otherwise,bar Froch's performances in his previous 12 rounders.because at the end of the day they don't tell you anything about George ! Only about Carl Froch ! Your reasoning and debate is flawed.

          I believe George wil l be standing at the end of the rematch,victorious on points.the longer this fitght goes on the further Carl will be behind on the cards.Ive seen nothing from Froch in his fight against Kessler 2 to suggest he finishes stronger than his opponent,unless you count the 12th where the referee allowed the fight to continue even though Carl hit Mikkel wit a low blow and still couldn't finish the fight !

          George is fresher,hungrier and fitter than both Mikkel and Carl.he is on the same class as them now too,and he will prove he has surpassed Carl when he triumphs in London is coming May.

          George has nothing to fear bar his world class power,should the officiating be unquestionably fair.whih is a tall ask regarding a Hearn card.
          Groves was in bigger trouble than you are making out. Yes he was standing up but right before Foster stepped in his legs went a little jelly like and he couldn't put one foot in front of the other as he stumbled his way in Fosters arms. That is an absolute fact. He was absolutely unaware of his surroundings for a couple of seconds then regained his senses as Foster released him into the ropes before he protested. Did he protest when Foster grabbed hold of him? No he didn't because he didn't have a clue what was going on and if you're gonna sit there and try to tell me that was fully functional and in control then I will tell you that you are full of ****. He was going down and if you cant see that you are a fool. wobbly legs, dazed and confused, Froch battering his head into the canvas with unrelenting and extreme pressure just like he always does when he smells blood. My god Howard Foster is such a imbecile. He created a situation where fans like you will act as if Groves was gonna win the fight. Ridiculous.
          Last edited by l1ght; 02-23-2014, 11:59 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
            Well that's what happened. He was gifted a stoppage which is why he won.

            Had he won otherwise? Perhaps - But I can't predict such things. All I know is that he was gifted the stoppage.

            What he says would be the same as me saying "Yes, Lewis battered Holyfield and was robbed. But let's not forget that Holyfield got a draw". It doesn't make any sense.

            In any fight (most of course), there's a winner and a loser - there's not much middle ground. So if one fighter is getting battered from rounds 1-9 and the other fighter gets a cheap stoppage, who really won?

            On the cards, it'll say Froch won. But in a fighting sense...

            Groves came out on top out of the two I think that's pretty clear.
            Oh, for sure. Still, the general consensus seems to be that Froch was on his way to a stoppage. Groves was tiring and rocked bad - there was over a minute left in the round, too.

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              #26
              Originally posted by yoz View Post
              Oh, for sure. Still, the general consensus seems to be that Froch was on his way to a stoppage. Groves was tiring and rocked bad - there was over a minute left in the round, too.
              Not only one minute left, there were 3 rounds and 1 minute left. No way Groves was getting out of there without being KTFO.

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                #27
                Froch was pretty classless during the fight and after the fight. He fouled the entire fight by hitting on the break every time. I found it disgusting. Problem is, if Groves were to retaliate, they would look for any reason to disqualify him. He's kind of in a no-win situation. He's going to have to box masterfully and probably score a couple of kd's to even sniff a win. I'm sure the judges and ref are in Froch's pocket once again for the rematch.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by 5burowz View Post
                  Froch was pretty classless during the fight and after the fight. He fouled the entire fight by hitting on the break every time. I found it disgusting. Problem is, if Groves were to retaliate, they would look for any reason to disqualify him. He's kind of in a no-win situation. He's going to have to box masterfully and probably score a couple of kd's to even sniff a win. I'm sure the judges and ref are in Froch's pocket once again for the rematch.
                  Really dude? Get a life. Its a fight not a tickling contest.
                  If Groves was the better fighter he would have won the fight instead of finding himself in a position where he was looking like he was about to get knocked out. The ref is an idiot for denying us the opportunity to see George flat out on the canvas or hanging onto the ropes with his eyes rolling into the back of his head
                  Last edited by l1ght; 02-23-2014, 12:50 PM.

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                    #29
                    I agree with GROVES' trainer,i believe FROCH will start a ballad of jab like with KESSLER but after the very first time GROVES will land a big one,FROCH will start to have nightmares because he is really in a fight he doesn't want to be;if FROCH lose this fight he is finished for sure.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by l1ght View Post
                      Really dude? Get a life. Its a fight not a tickling contest.
                      If Groves was the better fighter he would have won the fight instead of finding himself in a position where he was looking like he was about to get knocked out. The ref is an idiot for denying us the opportunity to see George flat out on the canvas or hanging onto the ropes with his eyes rolling into the back of his head
                      Are you sure about what ref denied to us??? What we have seen was FROCH knocked down in the first round and got up with BAMBI's legs!!!

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