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Any reason why GGG chose to get stripped instead of fighting Andrade and Derevy ?

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    #11
    Originally posted by DreamFighter View Post
    MAYBE yes, thasts what I used to say.

    BUT if you look at it in hindsight maybe facing Andrade/Dev instead of Can would have been better. He might win, then duck a loss to Canelo, and then still be champ today.

    MAYBE it might have been better to take the tough fight. But then again he might well have lost too, thats why he ducked in the first place.

    Why not though just fight Dev for ONE title, the IBF, and not put the others on the line?
    Stop with the duck talk

    He lost the Canelo fight and his straps over a questionable decision but the $ is too big to pass up. Golovkin got F.uck You $ for the rematch that probably sets him and his kids up for life.

    Most people think Golovkin won unfortunately for him boxing is a cesspool disguised as a sport that favours the fighters that bring in the cash and isn’t played or judged on a level playing field.

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      #12
      Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
      Stop with the duck talk

      He lost the Canelo fight and his straps over a questionable decision but the $ is too big to pass up. Golovkin got F.uck You $ for the rematch that probably sets him and his kids up for life.

      Most people think Golovkin won unfortunately for him boxing is a cesspool disguised as a sport that favours the fighters that bring in the cash and isn’t played or judged on a level playing field.
      I'm just offering you an alternative history where GGG keeps 2 of his belts, whats the problem. You dont tihnk it would have been a good strategy in hindsight?

      Are you saying you would prefer 3G to have no belts rather then 2? Truly?? You arent much of a GGG fan if you do.

      And 2ndly why not talk about ducking Dev when he did? Are you censoring truths out?
      Last edited by DreamFighter; 02-05-2019, 06:29 AM.

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        #13
        Originally posted by JimmyValmer View Post
        He fought Vanes and got stripped last May. why didn't he fight Andrade or Derevy who were eager and willing to fight him in a month's notice ?
        ... obvious answer: he just waited the get the "Canelo's money" in the rematch!... what was so difficult to understand?...

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          #14
          Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
          Stop with the duck talk

          He lost the Canelo fight and his straps over a questionable decision but the $ is too big to pass up. Golovkin got F.uck You $ for the rematch that probably sets him and his kids up for life.

          Most people think Golovkin won unfortunately for him boxing is a cesspool disguised as a sport that favours the fighters that bring in the cash and isn’t played or judged on a level playing field.
          ... of course.......................

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            #15
            he mght still have a belt if he hadnt ducked em is all i say. Its not hating to say that,its offering a lifeline for fans.
            Last edited by DreamFighter; 02-05-2019, 06:58 AM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by DreamFighter View Post
              I'm just offering you an alternative history where GGG keeps 2 of his belts, whats the problem. You dont tihnk it would have been a good strategy in hindsight?

              Are you saying you would prefer 3G to have no belts rather then 2? Truly?? You arent much of a GGG fan if you do.

              And 2ndly why not talk about ducking Dev when he did? Are you censoring truths out?
              I just don’t think it’s a duck when you consider what was going to happen in Sept. If anCanelo fight wasn’t postponed because Canelo popping dirty and a rematch wasn’t happening in sept and Golovkin dodged
              Devre, Then yeah you can say he ducked him but not with how the situation was

              I don’t think it would have been a good strategy to fight Devre in May with a Canelo fight happening in Sept. Taking on a risky fight with the possibility of losing out on a Canelo payday for life changing $ isn’t worth it to me. To fight a fighter that is a risk of derailing my f.uck you paycheques for chump change isn’t worth it


              I’m a fan of his and don’t care that the powers that be basically hi jacked his belts. I mean the IBF situation was just straight garbage along with the Canelo decision but that’s the sport I mean business of boxing

              Golovkin would get a negative reaction regardless of what he did l. If he fought Devre a fighter that no one knows or cares about for the IBF. A fight that’s poses somewhat of a risk. If he wins he’s expected and no one cares and it’s just considered another cherry pick afterwards , if he loses or gets injured he loses to a fighter with with no buzz and loses out on a massive payday

              If he fights Devre and doesn’t fight Canelo in September he’s looked at as ducking Canelo who is looked at as the far better and more accomplished fighter

              After Canelo popped which delayed the rematch the best option if you want to fight in may , is to take a soft touch and get to Sept with no hiccups and get that lotto ticket


              Most fans / media know he got shafted , so f.uck legacy or the straps neither will pay for your kids college down the road or keep the lights on but that rematch $ does

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                #17
                For the same reason Hagler chose to fight Leonard instead of his WBA mandatory Herol Graham.
                Money.

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                  #18
                  Promoters are not up all night trying to find other boxers/promoters who can make things tough for there fighter, and possibly lose, WHY would you?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
                    I just don’t think it’s a duck
                    i understand your "bigger fish" logic, but my path would have meant a greater chance of still being a champ today, if less well off.

                    Surely he'd want to build on his four IBF defences rather than cash out and end it, in hindsight. 4 defences of the only title he won is good but nowhere near elite/hof/atg.
                    Last edited by DreamFighter; 02-05-2019, 08:24 AM.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View Post
                      Possibly he could have fought either (and IMO he should have fought Derevyanchenko despite the fact that it may have put back the Canelo fight or even run the risk of him being stripped by the WBC), but at the time Andrade put his name forward the NSAC had yet to make a decision on how to proceed with Canelo's case. Had he taken a fight before the NSAC decided to ban Canelo he potentially ran the risk of being stripped by the WBC for failing to fight his mandatory Canelo. Furthermore Boo Boo made his offer when he thought he was talking about being on a PPV... you quite sure he would have fought GGG on short notice or regular HBO for a quarter mil? I ain't.

                      Probably, in both cases the reasons were more to do with on the one hand salvaging as much as possible of his reduced purse, and wanting to avoid protracted negotiations - and on the other not wanting to put the Canelo rematch in jeopardy, or take too dangerous a fight without proper preparation.

                      What's your take?... I wouldn't be too sure the IBF wouldn't have stripped him for fighting anyone except D'Chenko, although there is some oddness around the whole situation because technically the IBF jumped the queue in the rotation... despite Canelo being suspended GGG was still technically obligated to fight his WBC mando first, so we'll never know how things would have played out... a complicated situation all round.
                      So far as the WBC were concerned, Canelo was innocent and he was still GGG's mando, even while he was suspended.

                      But they couldn't try and make the IBF wait till after GGG/Canelo2 had happened before ordering their mando because they - the WBC - were not playing by the rules.

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