Comments Thread For: Reality check: Crawford-Spence not happening soon, says Ellerbe

[ceylon mooney]

garcia, garcia and broner all turned down career high paydays against arum fighters. swift refused crawford and pacquiao more that once. hell, haynon nade broner fight pacquiao for a coupla mil less than arum offered.

thinkin maybe arum shoulda bought a ticket by takin the collazo fight. dunno. thatd make him haymons punk tho. hmn...havin fury just isnt enough leverage considering haymon owns 2 weight classes.

[Fabes88]

Has Al came out and said it?

And even if he did he wouldn't be lying. With the exception of Don King's short run boxing has been whites & ***s exploiting black
latino fighters. Including Arum.

But that's not a problem for y'all. Someone raising the issue is a problem to y'all

Has al come out and said anything? I’m not sure who the y’all you’re referring to is but it’s not me.

As a black man I can understand why an American especially wouldn’t want to trust a white man. My point is that’s obviously a part of why his fighters have aligned with him and his fighters statements in the past have shown me to be right. You can’t get mad at arum for saying the same thing.

[Shadoww702]

CRAWFORD should sign with PBC to get real fights. ARUM has NO fighters at 147 for him to fight. He will end up fighting C level fighters like PAC did when he was with top stank. RIOS,VARGAS,ALGIERI,HORN!! CRAWFORD should smarten up!!

Vargas??? Hes with PBC.

[Ake-Dawg]

Ellerbe doesn’t speak for haymon or arum but Ellerbe heavily relies on haymon as the majority of his fighters are on his shows so I doubt he’d risk his livelihood by speaking out of turn so I would think there’s an element of truth in what he’s saying.

How many times does Spence have to say Crawford is on the other side of the street and he has other stuff to deal with first before you admit it’s obvious pbc don’t want this fight right now?

Risk his livelihood? By saying he doesn't think Crawford Spence gets made right now? No one is breaking a business relationship over that. You're grasping for straws trying to build an argument that doesn't even need to be made. Speaking out of turn. That's some funny stuff.

[Bronx2245]

Maybe there are fans that like to feel like a fighter has to be controlled by a promoter or fan emotion/opinion and the fact that Haymon's focus is on the fighter, not the promoter, and not the fans, bothers them.

They hate the fact that many of these guys "self-promote!" I think they hate that he's teaching guys to be "independent." I see that from people regarding free agency in the NBA or NFL! "How dare he ask for a trade!" "Where the loyalty TO THE OWNER and the fans?" One word comes to mind: UPPIDY!

[Shadoww702]

Thurman...Porter...Pac(2 small)..Garcia - all easy fights for Spence - no great fights! Would not pay ppv $ for any of these matchups!! Thurman would run and go into survival mode - boring fight. Porter looked terrible in his last fight and would get dominated and stopped early. Pac is too small for Spence...and Garcia would do the same thing he always does against top competition - retreat/hold on the inside/ throw a few hard looping punches a rd and then cry and complain when he looses another decision in another boring fight. Haymon has avoided matching Spence against his other top ww for this obvious reason.

Spence could also make 154 easy.

Hurd, Charlo, Lara..

Spence vs.Hurd could be for Hurds belt right now. Both IBF champs.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Welp, I'm all in.

Terence Crawford vs. Jeff Horn II: Shoe In
Terence Crawford vs. Amir Khan II: Keep Em Up

Let's see those fights, Bob. They'll make more money than Bes***** or Kavluskias.

[MC Hammer]

Arum said said he would. Ellerbe has said its not happening anytime soon so I find it hard how someone can place the blame on arum at this point given all we’ve seen and heard. until pbc says “ok fine let’s do a joint ppv” and arum backtracks As far as I’m concerned it’s them that don’t want the fight. Can’t you just man up and admit pbc are the ones preventing it. You fanboys are something else.

Arum and TR just blocked the Wilder Fury rematch, why then would PBC bail them out with Crawford? He has no comp and their competitor takes a loss everytime he fights. And TR already did the damage with Fury. I'm cool with Errol beating the other guys in the meantime, but Arum needs a timeout

[Bronx2245]

And there were other reporters there who filmed it but didn't report it.

For something that's supposedly not about race the other side sure keeps bringing up race (golden boy emails & Arum)

Dan Rafael did, but he didn't make a real big deal about it, and I didn't see anyone on ESPN bring it up:

April 23, 2019:

Minutes after the fight, Arum came to the ringside media section and was far more interested in letting off steam about Crawford-Spence than in assessing Crawford-Khan and the unusual ending of Arum's first ESPN PPV card.

Arum tried to forcefully make his case that the only one holding up Crawford-Spence was Haymon. He went in on Haymon hard, blaming him for refusing to even entertain the fight. He said Haymon would match Spence with only his other welterweights, including titleholders Keith Thurman, Shawn Porter and Pacquiao, who jumped from Top Rank to PBC late last year. He said Haymon was a "scamster." And he pulled out the race card, insisting that Haymon, who is black, would keep Spence from fighting Crawford.

"He's gonna say, 'Spence, listen to me. Don't listen to the white guys [like Arum], because if you listen to the white guys, they're gonna steer you down the road,'" Arum told the writers. "'Listen to me, brother. We're part of a brotherhood. And if I tell you not to fight Crawford, I'm telling you not to fight Crawford.' That's exactly what he will say..."

I feel Arum's pain, but I assure you it's not a group of reporters preventing this fight or any other one. I'm quite certain all of my ringside colleagues also very much want to see Crawford-Spence. As for the notoriously reclusive Haymon, he doesn't speak to the media and has never commented on this -- or anything, for that matter. PBC spokesman Tim Smith brushed off Arum's comments.

"It's not Al's way to negotiate through the media," Smith said. "He has made meaningful fights in the past with various promoters -- Canelo [Alvarez]-[Julio Cesar] Chavez Jr., Canelo-Khan, [Daniel] Jacobs-GGG, [Kell] Brook-Spence. As for Arum's other statements, they're not worth commenting on."

McIntyre said Arum's scorched-earth way of approaching things isn't conducive to making the fight.

"That probably won't get the job done," he said.



At least BoMac had a little something to say! Terence Crawford...MAN UP! Did being quiet get you that Pacquiao fight?

[Ake-Dawg]

They hate the fact that many of these guys "self-promote!" I think they hate that he's teaching guys to be "independent." I see that from people regarding free agency in the NBA or NFL! "How dare he ask for a trade!" "Where the loyalty TO THE OWNER and the fans?" One word comes to mind: UPPIDY!

I think that's a fine analogy. I've even seen a few guys on here defend Arum or Hearn as if those two were doing the fighting or were the attraction. It's also telling how often the word "deserve" comes up regarding PBC fighters.