Comments Thread For: Reality check: Crawford-Spence not happening soon, says Ellerbe

[MC Hammer]

They hate the fact that many of these guys "self-promote!" I think they hate that he's teaching guys to be "independent." I see that from people regarding free agency in the NBA or NFL! "How dare he ask for a trade!" "Where the loyalty TO THE OWNER and the fans?" One word comes to mind: UPPIDY!

They need a line button for quotes like this

[boxing90]

These promoters/managers/advisors are straight ruining good fights for us fans. This shit is getting annoying now.

Well said...

[Bjl12]

So Terrence Crawford is now the most feared/ducked fighter in boxing?

Ellerbee suggests so

[Ake-Dawg]

Has al come out and said anything? I’m not sure who the y’all you’re referring to is but it’s not me.

As a black man I can understand why an American especially wouldn’t want to trust a white man. My point is that’s obviously a part of why his fighters have aligned with him and his fighters statements in the past have shown me to be right. You can’t get mad at arum for saying the same thing.

Arum isn't saying the same thing because the fighters aren't saying that. It's YOUR opinion that they align with Haymon because he is black and it doesn't bother you that Arum said something to that effect because it aligns with your OPINION. All PBC fighters say the same thing regarding their alliance with Haymon, he takes care of them and helps them make a lot of money. His skin color does not come up.

[Bjl12]

Has al come out and said anything? I’m not sure who the y’all you’re referring to is but it’s not me.

As a black man I can understand why an American especially wouldn’t want to trust a white man. My point is that’s obviously a part of why his fighters have aligned with him and his fighters statements in the past have shown me to be right. You can’t get mad at arum for saying the same thing.

Yet you look the other way when Tank wanted out from Mayweather Promotions or Gamboa wanted out from SMS

Black Panthers are pro black and ONLY black

Anyhow, what am I misunderstanding??

Danny Garcia turns down career high payday to face the #1 fighter in the world. If he wins he has his pick of Spencer, Porter, or Thurman...instead he chooses to fight a journeyman for $1m flat.

Yeah that black Haymon is taking care of his black and latino boys !!!

Fu.ck outta here tryna make everything about race
Motorcity Cobra you are a cuck also

[Bronx2245]

I think that's a fine analogy. I've even seen a few guys on here defend Arum or Hearn as if those two were doing the fighting or were the attraction. It's also telling how often the word "deserve" comes up regarding PBC fighters.

I do see that a lot! Also "who cares what the other guy is getting?" People who know the business, that's who!

[Bronx2245]

They need a line button for quotes like this

Like you said earlier, they have no problem when Bob blocks the Wilder vs. Fury rematch, or Hearn gives Wilder a flat-fee offer! Yet PBC should help Crawford b/c TR doesn't have better options, or help MatchRoom b/c Miller failed 3 drug tests! Really???

[gogetter1132]

No surprises here. They are going to milk this fight too long like they did with Pac and Floyd. Crawford is already 31 I believe so his clock is ticking faster than Spence's.

I actually feel bad for Crawford since he's effectively stuck in welterweight purgatory. There are very few non-PBC names at 147.

[Pigeons]

I don't think this is news to anyone that understands the sport of boxing. Great fights rarely get made. With the downfall of HBO and all of these promoters finding their own networks or streaming services, the chances of great cross-promotional fights happening are even lower now.

[Shadoww702]

They might know, but they still run that "It's Al Haymon's Fault" line all the time! If he was so powerful, you would think they would call him directly! Ortiz says no, blame Al! Garcia says no, blame Al! Yet, no one called Al! "Oh, we were gonna call later, but we just wanted the guy to know the offer," as if Al wasn't going to tell them the offer! Crazy! I'm going to let Vanes tell them, so they know it's not just a "Black Thing"

February 20, 2019:

"The one thing I regret in my career is bad-mouthing Al Haymon because I have nothing bad to say about him, I was just upset with the people in the company that were not treating me right and I took it out on him," Vanes told On The Ropes Boxing Radio.

"That was a mistake I made and if want him to know that I’m thankful for him. I’m not saying that for him to take me back, I just want him to know that I’m thankful for him. I sat back and I thought about my career and my whole life and how things went and he’s one person I shouldn’t have bad-mouthed him and I’m sorry for that.

"I don’t need an offer from Haymon. If Haymon wants to accept me back, I would go to him immediately and I would want him in my boxing life. At the end of the day, he takes care of his fighters. He took care of me also.

"His fighters make good money and a lot of people hate on the amount the fighters makes because it’s a lot of money, but they don’t know what we go through outside of boxing. The punishment we take in our brains, we are getting brain damage and I think we need to be paid for that instead of the people outside who are running the show getting more money than the fighters. That’s the thing I like about Al Haymon, that he really does care about his fighters. If he’s willing to do something, I’m ready to go."

http://jeetwin24.com/vanes-i-...iately--136429

Al Haymon pro-fighter promotor who usually get above market pay for his guys and charges ONLY 10-15%.

Bob Arum charges what 50%++ and if u cross him he will try ruin your career like Mikey, Walters. I mean SHT!!! Pac is BROKE!!!

Ring Magazine just did a 3 part series on him